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**Gabriot** · December 3rd, 06:02 PM

Yah seriously guys most ball breaks are from the hammer smashing your ball before it even gets into the barrel. This is what chopping is.

Lionheart · December 3rd, 06:17 PM

Word on the street says tippmann effect wont be using 98's for too much longer. (According to one of their players who posts on this forum)

there not doing that bad in the nppl, their doing better then 14 other teams.

dtl

**Trigger-Happy** · December 3rd, 06:21 PM

what what markers will they be using if there not using custom... a5?

Lionheart · December 3rd, 06:31 PM

they use the A-5 too but apparentlly tipp is desginin a high end gun.

**ARagingRebel** · December 3rd, 08:20 PM

/\/\ mm more tippy toys, me like.

**chromekilla** · December 3rd, 09:20 PM

effect doesnt use A5's anymore

Alpha · December 3rd, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriot

Yah seriously guys most ball breaks are from the hammer smashing your ball before it even gets into the barrel. This is what chopping is.

Bolt hits the paint, not the hammer. And on LXed Mags, the bolt doesn't hit the paintball.. It gently nudges teh paint ever so slightly at speeds of 280fps.

Freak >Dye boomie and ceramic

Tippmanns aren't high end markers. Could you race a stock Honda elantra in a drag race? Yea, but you're racing with a handicap.

You can make the A5 a good gun, but the cyclone holds it back A LOT. IT only feeds 13bps.

**Dr Pimp GT** · December 3rd, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatliner105

stop talking.

first off taht barrel is a hell of alot better then ur dye and ceramic...its a freak KIT...no kit is supposed to break paint.

second we said he has been CHOPPING. chopping is totally different then barrel breaks.

with current day barrels and paintballs...you should never break a ball in the barrel if your shooting the correct speed...with a good barrel...and good paint.

ive been shooting my pipe all year...havnt had one barrel break yet...ya i have had a chop here and there...but no barrel breaks.

believe it or not, the barrel could have something to do with it.. that looks like more than one break. And if youve ever chopped a ball with a freak kit, youll know how bad it blows. The paint left over in the barrel from the chop will cause other balls to start barrel breaking. where as a pipe has good clean out rates, the freak sucks at cleaning itself out.

**Snowsk5054** · December 3rd, 09:58 PM

Well, 13 BPS isnt that bad...I mean, I like kinda fast guns, but I dont like slow rate of fire guns like tippys...I played with a Tippy Model 98, with a Dye Boomstick, I think, I know that barrel sucks...I hated palying with the 98. I couldnt fire that thing for crap, I had about 6 BPS, and with the DYE barrel, the balls were curving like a mother f'er, so thats why I got a Spyder Imagine, and I love it a hella lot more than those tippys, so I wouldnt touch a 98 if your gonna get another gun, but only if your gonna use it for woodsball only...only woodsball....

**MuddinPede_98C** · December 3rd, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowsk5054

...I played with a Tippy Model 98, with a Dye Boomstick, I think, I know that barrel sucks...

That barrel doesn't suck, buddy. It's just the fact that the Freak Kit is better than that because, well, it's a kit.

**Gabriot** · December 3rd, 11:33 PM

Imagine isn't much of a step up from a tippy I'd hate to say...

**snowmx14** · December 6th, 06:16 PM

I can honestly say i played speedball with my tippmann and loved it.. A drop forward,longer front grip and lighter trigger was all i really needed all the other stuff was just for giggles. I dont know if everyone sucked or i was good but i did fairly good. I liked peoples reaction when they got out by me. i am going to take some pics in a lil bit and post them to show you my speedball setup

**snowmx14** · December 6th, 06:16 PM

I can honestly say i played speedball with my tippmann and loved it.. A drop forward,longer front grip and lighter trigger was all i really needed all the other stuff was just for giggles. I dont know if everyone sucked or i was good but i did fairly good. I liked peoples reaction when they got out by me. i am going to take some pics in a lil bit and post them to show you my speedball setup

Flatliner105 · December 6th, 07:13 PM

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believe it or not, the barrel could have something to do with it.. that looks like more than one break. And if youve ever chopped a ball with a freak kit, youll know how bad it blows. The paint left over in the barrel from the chop will cause other balls to start barrel breaking. where as a pipe has good clean out rates, the freak sucks at cleaning itself out.

beleive it or not no barrel will clean itself out...the fact that the pipe kit can do it is exclusivly to that barrel (and a few others...not many though) however some breaks wont be able to be cleaned out...

either way the freak kit doesnt keep breaking...i played a few games with a tippmann wit a freak on it a few days ago and it was fine. I copped 1 or 2 over the course of a few games but they didnt keep breaking.

if they keep breaking...u most likely have a to small bore size...thats exactly wat happend to a guy at the field the same day...had to big of paintballs...so kept breaking.

**snowmx14** · December 6th, 07:29 PM

my camera is realling hard to aim sorry...15$ whatdo u expect for a cam

i have more pics like my shiny inside, trigger setup, and how i modded a 98c powertube to fit----->here

that wood fore grip i made, and is the best mod on the gun also i have a 14' dye boomstick somewhat pictured

Flatliner105 · December 7th, 07:06 AM

pic no work

**dhill0413** · December 7th, 11:25 AM

i think the hammerhead cleans itself in a few shots

Flatliner105 · December 7th, 02:42 PM

i realize there are some barrels that do it...liek the pipe...however it is not common.

and when someone says it doesnt clean itself out...no one is surprised cuz almost all barrels dont.

however there are the few that do have that convience

**Dr Pimp GT** · December 7th, 06:23 PM

ok, i think you guys took me a little too literaly, not even a pipe will clean itself out completely, but it does more so than a freak, in fact, a lot of barrels clean themselves out better than a freak. and paint left in a barrel can cause other breaks...

Flatliner105 · December 7th, 07:25 PM

i do not beleive paint in the barrel breaks the ball...however there is no way to prove or deny this claim.

however in the past whenever i have seen multiple breaks...was cuz the bore size was to small for the ball. That will do it though.