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**buddhaHybrid** · December 30th, 10:49 PM

How and how much would it cost to convert an a-5 to compressed air rather than c02 and is it really worth it for a novice? And I have heard that the a-5 uses a lot of gas, would a low pressure system help this or not really? What would be some good mods for the a-5? I assume a j&j barrel or flatline, but a e-grip or response trigger seems over kill for the price for a beginner like me.
thanks...

**DAVE** · December 30th, 11:10 PM

Well the a-5 will run on compressed air or c02 you dont need anything extra. That goes for other guns too.A-5's are gas hogs but I have heard the lpk helps a little. A new barrel is definately a good upgrade becuase the stock one isnt very good and other upgrades depend on what you play.

**buddhaHybrid** · December 30th, 11:11 PM

woodsball mostly. (90% or more...)

**DAVE** · December 30th, 11:17 PM

Well like I said a barrel is a good choice, flatline is good but I personally dont think they are worth 100+. I myself like the custom products one piece. Check the stickies, there is a list of upgrades.

Cali Guy 14 · January 1st, 01:29 PM

ok well novice is not a noob, novices can be playin between a year-4 years, with more than a month and less than a year of tourny's.

But you can run hpa on a tippy, and people say tippys are hogs, ok a little, but really not that bad, you need to make a few mods, and it will go 1000-1200 on a 20....that is about average for a gun like that. Now my impulse got like 1000 on a 45k, that ain't a air hog its just the way the gun works.

You can run a tippy on str8 hpa, but i woudl suggest getting a palmers reg, there really nice for tippys, and run a 800psi tank, and set the tippy to be 300-400, yes making it a lp. You gun will have far less kick, run faster, and more to a tank.

That kit that tippmann makes is stupid, its a lpr, and u really do't need it on a tippy, but cause the bolt is the same and the hammer and everything.

I coudl go on.

**Smitty** · January 1st, 02:02 PM

LPK for tippy = waste of money

**DYNASTYfan07** · January 1st, 04:34 PM

^ hes right

personally i dont think the A-5 is worth it..its gonna cost you alot to do what you want to with it...but if you are gonna get one, id get a new barrel (Stiff!)...get the E-grip, and customize it in some way, make it unique

**Shoe Lace** · January 1st, 05:37 PM

hpa can run on an a5 without anything added onto it

as far as buyin an ekit or a response trigger, just buy a double trigger first and see if you like it

**MP11** · January 2nd, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by buddhaHybrid

How and how much would it cost to convert an a-5 to compressed air rather than c02 and is it really worth it for a novice?

You would just need to buy the HPA tank. No parts are needed for the conversion. I would recommend buying an HPA tank because it is an unvirsal upgrade, meaning you can use it on your markers to come.

And I have heard that the a-5 uses a lot of gas, would a low pressure system help this or not really?

Low pressure does not mean better effiecentcy, it sometimes means worse effiecentcy. Low pressure has to be the biggest myth in paintball. Why do companies push low pressure markers then? You probably guessed it, they are cheaper to make than high pressure markers.

What would be some good mods for the a-5? I assume a j&j barrel or flatline, but a e-grip or response trigger seems over kill for the price for a beginner like me.

Get a good barrel, like a CP 1 Piece barrel. Don't get into upgrading your A-5 beyond belief because it will never come to par with a high end marker. If you want to get something else that's cheap, I suggest a double trigger kit.

-Mike

**Gee** · January 3rd, 01:01 AM

DON"T BUY A FLATLINE! If you really want one, I got one I'm not using ANYMORE!
YES, they'll shoot your ball a LONGGGG WAY!! But you won't hit anything. Unless you lob about 200 balls!
Up closer, they are fine, but if your shooting closer and are conserned about wasting paint, go to a Freak System. (or a sized barrel system) I LOVE my Freak System.
I mostly do Rec/Woodsball. I don't shoot as much paint now.
You can get an LAPCO adapter, A-5, 98C to any Freak barrel. I bought a
used Autococker Freak barrel, and a used s/s insert kit, because my next gun will be an E-Orracle. Now I have the barrel and all the inserts!

Response trigger? I turned mine off! Waste too much paint!
With the Freak System I don't need to shoot a bunch of paint to hit my target.
Get a lighter spring for your trigger,(great info about mods on this forum!! Thanks guys) and YES, a double trigger!
I did a trigger job on mine, it's light! But don't try it unless you know what your doing. Or you can go FULL AUTO, fulltime!!

Co2 vs Air? Air is not affected by temp as C02 is. Air is alot more consistant than C02. I live in Wash. State. It was 25 degrees at the feild today.
The guys using C02 were having a TUFF TIME. Most were only getting 160 to 200 fps. Exspanision chambers would of helped a little. I was shooting 285fps (right where I like it!)
Plus, our feilds charges only $5.00 for all day air fills. C02 is $3.00 per fill.

LP on an A-5? I don't have enough info to make that investment yet. GEE

Slugman · January 3rd, 08:18 AM

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DON"T BUY A FLATLINE! If you really want one, I got one I'm not using ANYMORE!
YES, they'll shoot your ball a LONGGGG WAY!! But you won't hit anything. Unless you lob about 200 balls!
Up closer, they are fine, but if your shooting closer and are conserned about wasting paint, go to a Freak System. (or a sized barrel system) I LOVE my Freak System.
I mostly do Rec/Woodsball. I don't shoot as much paint now.
You can get an LAPCO adapter, A-5, 98C to any Freak barrel. I bought a
used Autococker Freak barrel, and a used s/s insert kit, because my next gun will be an E-Orracle. Now I have the barrel and all the inserts!

the flatline does not shoot a "LOOOOONG WAY"....and yes it is accurate. You simply do not know how to use it

and sorry to bust your bubble but the freak kit is the worst barrel kit. The inserts can VERY easily be bent or nicked....and the barrels just do not perform good compared to other barrel kits.

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Response trigger? I turned mine off! Waste too much paint!
With the Freak System I don't need to shoot a bunch of paint to hit my target.
Get a lighter spring for your trigger,(great info about mods on this forum!! Thanks guys) and YES, a double trigger!
I did a trigger job on mine, it's light! But don't try it unless you know what your doing. Or you can go FULL AUTO, fulltime!!

its never about shooting alot of paint to "hit" the target....its about shooting alot of paint to pinn down the other player. If you put preassure on the other team/player...they are more likley to make a bad move or over expose themselves...whcih is exactly wat u want.

**Gee** · January 4th, 12:12 AM

Slugman,
I know how to use a Flatline. I've just moved up from "Spraying to Hitting"
If you read Tippmann's article, they claim Distance, not Accuracy.
How can a barrel that's .697 inside diameter be accurate using .687 paint?
Also, I don't have the Aluminum inserts, I have the S/S ones. They are alot smoother inside and GOOD LUCK! trying to smash/dent one.
Alot of Teams use the Freak Systems, You think they just don't know better?
I've tried ALOT off differant paint in my Flatline, but it just can't come close to the Freak System.

Your Right, it's about pinning down your opponent so your partner can move up or flank to take him out.
But, what if you no longer have a partner?? What, shoot up all your paint real fast so you can Yell "I'M OUT!"
I can pin someone's head down with 3-4 bps. You don't need 15-18 bps to do this, do you?
Just asking. Don't get MAD.

Anyway, that's what they taught me in the Marine Corps. This tactic also works great in paintball, parrie dogs

Also, that's why the new M16 has a 3 round burst. Conserve your ammo! "Aim Small, Hit Big"
If there is a better barrel system out there, let me know.
Money is not a consern with me. Good equiptment is.

Thanks, GEE

"Only a Fool disregards instruction" The BOOK

**dhill0413** · January 4th, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Guy 14

You can run a tippy on str8 hpa, but i woudl suggest getting a palmers reg, there really nice for tippys, and run a 800psi tank, and set the tippy to be 300-400, yes making it a lp. You gun will have far less kick, run faster, and more to a tank.

That kit that tippmann makes is stupid, its a lpr, and u really do't need it on a tippy, but cause the bolt is the same and the hammer and everything.

I coudl go on.

you are stupid dude. you cant just buy a reg and nitro tank and run it at low pressure. you NEED the lpk or replace the hammer, springs, and bolts to run it at that low of a pressure.

dont post false info.

and Gee, teams use the freak system because they are PAID to use it. Dynasty sure as hell doesnt use shockers because they are the best gun on the market, smart parts PAYS them to use it, along with the freak.

**Smitty** · January 4th, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dhill0413

you cant just buy a reg and nitro tank and run it at low pressure. you NEED the lpk or replace the hammer, springs, and bolts to run it at that low of a pressure.

dont post false info.

Dan speaks the truth.

**Silent Kill** · January 4th, 04:08 PM

but the freak kit is good, right?

**dhill0413** · January 4th, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent Kill

but the freak kit is good, right?

there are MUCH better barrel kits than the OVERpriced freak kit.

**Gee** · January 4th, 08:21 PM

dhill0413 ok, which barrel kits are better and less exspensive than the Freak?
I'm asking, because my daughter needs a better barrel system for her Spyder.

Cali Guy 14 · January 4th, 08:27 PM

lol for a sypder, not a barrel kit. But such better less expencive kits includes matchstik, empire kit, 4 and 7 and 10, cp, evil, list can go on, theres also hammerheads, which are not too known, but shoot darts, wgp makes a kit.

**Gee** · January 4th, 08:52 PM

Why LOL?
I don't mind spending the money for a good barrel kit for her Spyder.
Because when she moves up, which she will, I can get a Lapco adapter to use the good barrel kit on her next gun.

I bought an Autococker barrel for my A-5.
Because my next gun will most likely be an Autococker.

Sizing your paint to your barrel does make a differance. That's been proven.

If your willing to spend $400 to $1,000 on a gun, why not then spend another $100 to $200 on a GOOD barrel system???

It's just thinking ahead.

**dhill0413** · January 4th, 10:35 PM

Freak kit- 150. you get inserts.

Evil pipe kit 175, better reviews anywhere you read.

Ultralite w/ another back 145 (id take it over a freak)

kaner 130(awesome)

empire 4piece(95) 7piece(130) 10 piece(230)

matchstick 100

hammerheads are considerably more expensive, and are better.

why do i like other kits better? you get actual backs and fronts, instead of 1 front and back, and a bunch of dentable, somewhat fragile inserts. i dont know where it is but there was something posted here where the actual bore size was tested and the freak tested much lower in how close to advertised bore size it really was. i dont know where it is so i cant show it to you.

the other kits are more accurate, and the freak kit is typical of smart parts, overhyped, cheaply made, overpriced....just like the impulse, shocker, and nerve.