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**doubleblade91** · July 4th, 07:00 PM

should i get ir3, speed, or a4?
could u say the actual name of the gun cause im not used to all the angel abreviations.
and wuts a eye?

**BunkerMonkey** · July 4th, 07:29 PM

Get the A4 or if you have the money go with the New Fly, and eye is an IR sensor or break beam that detects if there is a ball in the breech or not the A4s dont come with an eye they use SENSI which is a pad in the grip that detects weight on the sensi rod, but the new flys come with WDPs eyeQ their own anti chop eye

**doubleblade91** · July 4th, 07:37 PM

could u give me a link of a site that has alot of angels products cause xpaintball.com dosent have angel flys. all they have are ir3 speed and a4

wait let me ask this.
wut angel SHOULDNT i get?

**BunkerMonkey** · July 4th, 10:04 PM

I personally dont like IR3s, the A4 or the Fly is gonna be a good choice, just run a search on google for paintball stores, and next time edit your post instead of posting again

**Wdp ir3 2k3** · July 4th, 10:15 PM

get a speed or a ir3 i seen them on ebay for like 500$

**BunkerMonkey** · July 4th, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdp ir3 2k3

get a speed or a ir3 i seen them on ebay for like 500$

If your tight on money or dont wanna spend much then yes, but if you have the cash then go A4 or Fly and Fly is the better choice between the two

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · July 4th, 11:53 PM

Ive got an angel so I'm not being biased. Ir3s are Peices of crap...do yourself a favour and dont get one. Same with the speed....its a peice of junk. Way to many problems....i wouldnt shot an ir3 if it was givin to me for free.

LCDs and LEDSare the only old reliable angels...but im assuming your aiming for high end.

If you are looking at new angels, the only one i would even consider would be the a4 fly. The fly-ness is sweet ****.

Look for a used a4 fly.

**BunkerMonkey** · July 4th, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeRO eFFeCT

Ive got an angel so I'm not being biased. Ir3s are Peices of crap...do yourself a favour and dont get one. Same with the speed....its a peice of junk. Way to many problems....i wouldnt shot an ir3 if it was givin to me for free.

LCDs are the only old reliable angels...but im assuming your aiming for high end.

If you are looking at new angels, the only one i would even consider would be the a4 fly. The fly-ness is sweet ****.

Look for a used a4 fly.

And what exactly do you have against speeds? I have no problems at all, if ur gonna bash a gun give some reasons otherwise im just gonna think you dont know what ur talking about, and you wouldnt want that would you?

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · July 5th, 12:04 AM

I dont need you do belive what im talking about...I need the threafd starter to.

Sensi is a piece of crap. Speeds are not woth the money you pfay....you might as well sfave the money for fa gun thaft afctufally works....or works good. You own fa speed, so i expect you to defend it. But you cfant faruge the bull**** problems they have...

You know ir3s fare gfarbfadge. The speeds brefak down eafsy. The speed is pretty ffast, but whafts thaft gonnfa get you if the guns crafp.

The kick on them when you first get them is horrible afnd the famount of tiem you need to put into them is not worth it.

You alrffady know the other problems. The circuit and LPR problems

Ps. yes my keybofard is broken afnd imnot editing.

No not every speed is crfap....but i wouldnt bother my time with one...

**j_dogg** · July 5th, 12:15 AM

Ok, I'll give you the best advice on an Angel purchase doubleblade; buy the newest you can afford. That's it. They are all awesome guns in their own right, each one from the '99 LED to the A4 Fly. Get the one that you can afford, and save money for a good hopper, tank, and barrel kit. Any problems that any Angel has is almost always due to user error. Some of the first runs of new products had issues that were addressed quickly and if you buy new you are assured by warrenty that any problems with your gun are covered. If you buy used you should have a service tech go over it after you buy it( costs $65 at theangelguy.com, but it's well worth it). Also read the manual before using your gun. It's going to have lots of adjustable settings and you need to know what to adjust and what not to. As far as zero's personal problems with the guns he mentioned, I've used both and seen tons on the field having no problems. None. So like I said, learn about the gun you buy and you'll not have problems. If you do, ask here and myself or bunkermonkey or someone will help you.

**BunkerMonkey** · July 5th, 12:15 AM

Sensi can be crap if you dont know how to set it up properly, I wasnt expecting you to care that I didnt think u knew what u were talkin about its just that you need to give reasons why your bashin on a gun (seein as it is in the rules,and as a supporter you should be following them) and what bull problems you talking about? I just said I have no problems what so ever, have u even owned or shot a speed? The gun doesnt break down and there are no circuit or LPR problems and ive had to put barely any time into the gun at all

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · July 5th, 12:18 AM

^^No problems with an Ir3 or speed? Common they are hfave so mafny its not funny.

Just cafuse I hfave an Lcd doesnt meafn thfats the only thing i bring on the field btw.

Its your choice doubleblafde on which gun.

If you hfave the $$$ the a4fly is the way to go.

**BunkerMonkey** · July 5th, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeRO eFFeCT

^^No problems with an Ir3 or speed? Common they are hfave so mafny its not funny.

Its your choice doubleblafde on which gun.

If you hfave the $$$ the a4fly is the way to go.

No on the speed, I said nothing about an IR3, again you are just giving a general "they have problems" statement, I defended that there are none and thats all you have to say?

**j_dogg** · July 5th, 12:22 AM

Like I said bro, I've used both, my teammates have owned both, and I've seen very few problems in general. Especially in the Speeds.

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · July 5th, 12:25 AM

How else do you wfant me to explfain it....generfal seemed fine enough.

The speed has mfajor problems You need to do a "trick" just so you can get you gun under 260 on certfain tfanks.

The dont perform good imo fand for 600$ you could get a different gun.

**BunkerMonkey** · July 5th, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ZeRO eFFeCT

How else do you wfant me to explfain it....generfal seemed fine enough.

The speed has mfajor problems You need to do a "trick" just so you can get you gun under 260 on certfain tfanks.

The dont perform good imo fand for 600$ you could get a different gun.

see now your sounding very uneducated about speeds, your talking about the minireg mod in which you have to do ONLY if your running High pressure output into the minireg which everyone knows you should use a low pressure output tank, its not on some tanks its on ALL high pressure output tanks, I want you to either explain first hand experience with the problems are explain the problems, like I said my gun performs great ESPECIALLY for the price

**doubleblade91** · July 5th, 06:47 AM

uh the thing is im not gonna waste 1000 bucks on a gun....
my friends friend is selling a angel for only 50.
i was wondering whether to sell it and get a new gun or to keep it.
i have no idea what kinda angel it is......

**imhungry** · July 5th, 09:43 AM

zero effect is silly. all an ir3 is is an LCD w/ a space frame, cops and some extra modes that are locked. what ever problems the ir3 has the lcd will have. there are really no problems i have seen in an ir3. they are solid guns but i dont think they are worth the price when they are basically lcd's. secondly, speeds are AWESOME guns. i have never seen a problem with them other then the sensi not working on some of them. who cares if it doesnt work, most people run halos and evo's so your not going to outfire your loader. you have no idea what you are talking about. you just make yourself sound more ignorant w/ every post.

**BunkerMonkey** · July 5th, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleblade91

uh the thing is im not gonna waste 1000 bucks on a gun....
my friends friend is selling a angel for only 50.
i was wondering whether to sell it and get a new gun or to keep it.
i have no idea what kinda angel it is......

Let us know what type and what kind of condition it is in

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · July 5th, 01:12 PM

I knew I wafs gonnaf get gfanged up on.

IMO i would never buy a speed...theres just not hafpping for me. If yours works, thafts grefat for you, but not something i would ever consider.

And i do know what im talking fabout.

The thread mfaker isnt even choosing an fangel...hes just buying his friends and he doesnt know whfat type. So I think the afrguement should be safved for fa different threfad.

You think speeds are good....I wouldnt touch one. Lets just afgree to disfagree.