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Old June 29th, 2004, 12:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WAS vs. Pandora

Has anyone here used both boards? Anyone have any spects on the choas board? My friend just bought a new viking and his came with Pandora. Compare the two boards and post a printout on the Pandora board on how to change the settings.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 12:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My friend has had both in his viking and the pandora is a way better board. Was boards suck. Morlocks are awesome to. Just a little harder to install. I have a morlock for sale new in the box if he is interested. I only want 100 for it.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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what are the differences between both boards?
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Old July 29th, 2004, 04:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Your friend has a WAS board and a Pandora board both in his viking?

Tell me why does the WAS board suck and why the choas board is so much better.

No thanks on the morlock.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 10:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No he doesnt have two boards in one Viking. He had the WAS, which without the equilink is caped at 13 balls a secound and the equilink is Way expensive. Secound the WAS boards get stuck in competition mode and if you send them back to AKA they just give you the software to get them out of competition mode and dont do anything, third they have a first shot drop off. The Pandora or Chaos board is a plug in deal that isnt locked at 13 balls a secound, can be adjusted to what you want, does not have first shot drop off, does not get stuck in competition mode, is a lot better all around. The Morlock is very small and is capable of out shooting pretty much every board, it is just a bit(h to install. You have to gut the whole thing. I am going to buy a chaos, but a few people still have the first shot drop off. I dont know all the other specs for it, you will have to go to a review and see what they are...im pulling this off the top of my head right now. Cheboygan, Michigan where I am from as 2 % of all Vikings ever produced. I have seen all the different boards and I know for a fact the WAS is crap. I will get more technical stuff later on, right now im tired and dont feel like researching.
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Old July 29th, 2004, 11:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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As long as you have eyes the WAS board isn't capped at 13bps. My WAS board dosen't have FSDO, same with my 3 other friends that shoot vikings with WAS. The only thing i like about the Choas board so far is that it has a quick boot-up time. Sure it has a bunch of different modes of fire, but really you don't even need those.
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Old July 30th, 2004, 04:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You have an 04 as well. They were drilled for the eyes and you have a different WAS sofware. Most of the 03 Vikings had problems with the WAS board. I would have to dremmel my viking to make the eyes fit.
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I have a friend with a 02 viking, he had the nelson board in it then upgraded to WAS, no FSDO with his gun. I have two friends with 03 vikings both with WAS and no FSDO. I've never heard of the WAS board having FSDO, you sure your LPR just isn't too low?
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Old July 31st, 2004, 02:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No it isnt...for somereason I have Fsdo. A lot of guys around here do. I have an scm as well. It still did it before the scm and it still does it now.
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Old July 31st, 2004, 04:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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biggy most of the crap your spitting is wrong, with eyes the was is uncapped, was does have fsdo but only in a select few, pandora starts up quicker and has alot more adjustabilty plus fun modes like full-auto but i have heard alot about pandora board freezing up and needing to be reflashed, also i hate having to deal with dip switches, was is more simple and thats why i like it, i would only buy pandora if you happen to have 100 bucks burning a hole in your pocket, and you have already bought a mitey max, 2 liter, and scm 2.0
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What is wrong with what I said. I know the WAS is uncapped with eyes. The 04's are drilled for eyes the 03's are not. I didnt want to dremmel my viking to put eyes in it. The WAS is simpler if you dont have a cable...then it is close. The advantage for the Pandora is that you dont need $60 for a cable to change settings and it has more modes. So far it has proven to be more reliable. There is more people with faulty WAS boards then Pandora boards. ALL WAS boards have comp mode and some go into comp mode by themselves. There has been quite a number of WAS guns that had there FSDO eliminated when changing their board from WAS. There is FSDO on WAS boards because there is failure of the board to give enough dwell on first shot to unseat the seals. This is because of bad programming or tight seals. I have never herd of a pandora freezing up. For more facts...go to Pbnation.com and look under AKA forum. You will learn why WAS suck.
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There is FSDO on WAS boards because there is failure of the board to give enough dwell on first shot to unseat the seals. This is because of bad programming or tight seals. I have never herd of a pandora freezing up. For more facts...go to Pbnation.com and look under AKA forum. You will learn why WAS suck.[/QUOTE]

your an idiot, the only reason was board have fsdo is because the board loses the charge and the valve doesnt stay open long enough so that the fps go down
(this can be fixed by upping the dwell), you can't give dwell, and there are no tight seals, you just dont know what your talking about and trust me ive been to pbn before, not to mention i own a viking with was
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Old August 4th, 2004, 10:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have owned BOTH boards and so far I like my Pandora better. However each board has their advantages and disadvantages. I think the biggest reason people don't like WAS boards is because of the person behind WAS-Jim Drew. We all know that some Vikings with WAS boards have FSDO. My first Viking had no FSDO. Jim Drew lied and sayed that the FSDO was pneumatical, even though it proven that it wasn't. Vikings with Nelson boards never had FSDO until WAS came along. After AKA put the capacitator mod on the WAS boards J.D. said this would void the warranty. Then a few months later he came out with the 1.6 update which did the same exact thing that the capacitator mod did.

Back to Pandora vs. WAS. Some people are trading their Pandora boards (I traded my WAS for a Pandora) because supposidly the 1.6 updates makes the Viking ramp. The Pandora board is a little more tricky to program than the WAS. One LARGE advantage the WAS board has over the Pandora is that you can show that the board is on tourney lock when you turn it on. In order to show that the Pandora is on tourney lock you have to take apart the marker and show the ref that the dipswitch is turned on(which means tourney lock is on). However the Pandora has much better eye logic. If you chop a ball with WAS, then it would automatically cap the BPS to 13bps. If for some reason you chop with the Pandora, then it caps the board to 13bps UNTIL the eyes are clear. As soon as the eyes are uncovered with paint it unlimits your BPS again, so you can keep on shooting fast. There have been a few people saying they chop less with Pandora too.

Overall I would take the Pandora, but if you can only get a WAS board then there really isn't anything wrong with that. Both boards will be more than sufficient for the user, but the Pandora is much more adjustable. (Firing modes etc...)

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Old August 5th, 2004, 04:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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well said Tedrzz. Tippmannpimper...nice name...A guy with a name like that sure knows his sh*t about electronics. Upping the dwell is like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound. It doesnt fix the problem, but installing pandora board does. You need to get off Jim Drews d*ck. Just because you have a viking doesnt mean you know everything about vikings.
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Old August 7th, 2004, 10:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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There is FSDO on WAS boards because there is failure of the board to give enough dwell on first shot to unseat the seals.
yo dip****, i hate jim drew, i dont love was, and your an idiot, yes my name is stupid but i know a **** load more about vikings then you do, that quote up there really make you seem smart, i know tedrzz, im not an idiot, i have shot 12 vikings with was not one has had fsdo, do some have it? yes, does that mean they need to shell out 100 bucks to fix that tiny problem? no its a waste of money, if you read what tedrzz just wrote it doesnt disprove me in ayway so shut the hell up
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Old August 7th, 2004, 11:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Stop fighting you two.
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How is what I wrote, not true? The quote you used to rip on me is true. Your making yourself look dumb.
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You double posted, therefore making yourself look dumb.
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you pointed out the obvious, therefore making yourself look pathetic.

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Yes i'm pathetic because i can spell obvious.
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I cant spell worth a crap. No, your pathetic because you cant get an erection.
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It's true.
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One LARGE advantage the WAS board has over the Pandora is that you can show that the board is on tourney lock when you turn it on. In order to show that the Pandora is on tourney lock you have to take apart the marker and show the ref that the dipswitch is turned on
This isn't true any more. There's new firmware for the Pandora board (firmware v2.2) that blinks the LED to show a ref whether the marker is tourney-locked. If it's locked, the LED shines steadily. If it's not locked, the LED blinks every 0.5 seconds.

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