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Old May 14th, 2006, 01:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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rifling???

i know that theres at least one. what is the name of the barrel that has the rifling in it.
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Old May 14th, 2006, 01:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old May 14th, 2006, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thinks soo. much theres this dude at the local paintball shop. and i was talking to this kid about one with rifling in it. and he was like thats not ture i bought this rifle barrel and there is not a barrel with rifling in it. so i was just wondering
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Old May 14th, 2006, 02:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i think you're looking for the empire twister. but from everything i've read and heard, it's not possible to effectively put a rifled spin on a assymetrical,liquid filled object that doesn't even fit flush inside the bore.
on the other hand, the one guy i know that has one loves it and gets remarkable accuracy out of it.
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Old May 14th, 2006, 06:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i think you're looking for the empire twister. but from everything i've read and heard, it's not possible to effectively put a rifled spin on a assymetrical,liquid filled object that doesn't even fit flush inside the bore.
on the other hand, the one guy i know that has one loves it and gets remarkable accuracy out of it.
o i am not looking to buy one. i am looking to prove this guy worng. thats all.
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Old May 14th, 2006, 08:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i think you're looking for the empire twister. but from everything i've read and heard, it's not possible to effectively put a rifled spin on a assymetrical,liquid filled object that doesn't even fit flush inside the bore.
on the other hand, the one guy i know that has one loves it and gets remarkable accuracy out of it.
This is true. Basically there is no science to support the theory of a rifled barrel. Tom Kaye over at Airgun designs did tons of research into the subject in the 80's and 90's and came up with the conclusion taht the smooth bore barrel was more effective.

The only barrel that really imparts spin onto the ball in such a way as to affect its flight characteristics is the flatline and that puts backspin on the ball through the use of a curved barrel.

But again... paintball is like golf or fishing.. there are 3000038977343 trillion gadgets out there that claim to do whatever you want them to do. Try stuff, but don't believe the hype.



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Old May 15th, 2006, 09:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think alot of barrels are rifled, i got my Smart Parts Progressive barrel and even said on the package its rifled....so who the heck knows.
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Old May 15th, 2006, 11:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Nah, Smart Parts barrels don't have rifling.

And I wouldn't bother with rifling, as said before. It hasn't proven itself to be effective with paintball markers.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 01:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The Empire Twister Barrel has Rifling.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Cool Empire Twister Barrel

My wife bought me an Empite Twister Barrel for Christmas. I was using my rifle range to test out the new barrel, it did not improve distance, but it did give me a several more feet of straight line flow. Plus I was able to land a hopper full of rounds with in the same area. A big improvement over my stock barrel. It was compared to a 12 inches stock tippman 98 barrel.

I always beleive from owning antique rifles and muskets that the slightest spin or rifle will improve the projectile. Not saying it will make it spin like a cannon.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Please don't bring back old threads. And, the stock Tippmann 98 is a 9 inch barrel, something like that. maybe 8.5 I dont remember, but I know its not 12.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 08:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, now that its back :P

I has been wondering about this lately as well. Kinda sucks that it proly doesn't work, but then again it would take a lot of force to get rifling to work, so much that id proly bust the ball, or at least, exceed the speed most fields would allow.
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Old December 28th, 2006, 05:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Anything is an improvement over the stock 98C barrel, lol. That's why you saw results.

And obviously rifling in paintball has proven to be not very effective or else you'd see it in a lot more barrels. Just pointing that out.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 08:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Please don't bring back old threads. And, the stock Tippmann 98 is a 9 inch barrel, something like that. maybe 8.5 I dont remember, but I know its not 12.
he could have had a 98 custom pro, those come with 11 or 12 inch barrels. i had a cmi truflite straight ported barrel that had lines on the inside that go the length of it that are supposed to keep the balls straight when they come out. it works and i can get my balls to go almost as far as my cousins flatline and i can shoot alot more accurate. this is compared to the j&j i had before. not the stock.
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the smart parts barrels aren't really rifled. They are just "straight bore" meaning that it doesn't spin the ball. it doesnt affect the accuracy much. i would rather spend extra money on a longer barrel than the crap that smart pats says is "rifled"
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Old April 9th, 2009, 12:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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rifled v.s. flatline

ok so me and my buddy got in this argument over a flat line being better than a rifled barrel. ok so i said the flat line was better b/c the paintball in round not cone shape like a bullet and that the groves actually slow the ball down. pulse the flat line can shoot farther and more accurately b/e it puts backspin on the ball and the shape of the barrel also help do so.. anyways he completely disagreed and went to say that the apex can shoot farther than the flat line... so what do u guys think on this whole concept of rifled v.s. flat line?

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Old April 9th, 2009, 12:38 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Ok a side note, the Flatline and the Apex are essentially the same barrel. Neither of them are rifled, and they're both gimmicks.

And like this whole thread says, rifling in paintball does absolutely nothing.
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Old April 9th, 2009, 11:13 AM   #19 (permalink)
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backspin will get you a flater trajectory, not greater distance, and putting spin on a liquid filled object will not make it fly any straighter if anything you should be trying to decrease the amount of spin on it
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Old April 10th, 2009, 11:55 AM   #20 (permalink)
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backspin will get you a flater trajectory, not greater distance, and putting spin on a liquid filled object will not make it fly any straighter if anything you should be trying to decrease the amount of spin on it
my spyder electra 07 came with a rifled barrel
it didnt shoot any better than a smooth bore barrel, my sp tear drop out shot it by miles
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Old April 10th, 2009, 12:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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people often replace a stock barrel with a rifeled one and dont realize the bore size is also different so they credit the added accuracy to the rifeling, i think this is one of the main reasons the myth of rifeling has held up for so long

but if you think about rifeling in firearms, the reason it gets the bullet to spin is because the grooves in the barrel are cut into the bullet (also why they have the markings after being fired) but what happens if you cut into a paintball shell? splat, thats what plus even if you do manage to get the paintball spining there is nothing to make sure it does not rotate off that axis while in flight
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Old April 11th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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