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Old October 14th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Recommend a barrel for my Spyder

Last weekend I played paintball for the first time in several years. It was just an informal game in the woods. I have a Spyder TL that is about 10 years old and it fired all day with no problems. After the game we all decided to make this a monthly event so I wanted to get some feedback on a couple of things.

My short-range accuracy was terrible to say nothing about any kind of long-range. I'm willing to blame it on the cheap paint I bought. It was JT USA AWX camoed paint, about $36 for a case of 2000 from Sports Authority. I didn't want to spend more than that because I wasn't sure if it would turn into a regular thing or not. Since it is I will use better paint in the future.

My main question is what barrel upgrade(s), if any, could I benefit from in terms of short-range accuracy?

Is there a barrel that fits the Spyder TL that would also increase my range?

Thanks for your help,
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Old October 14th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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NO barrel will increase range. You'll find this in every barrel post; you'll actualyl find every bit of what i'm gonna tell you in every post. There's some that claim they do, and they do..but they're worthless.

Get a J&J ceramics barrel 12-16 inches.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Get a J&J ceramics barrel 12-16 inches.
agreed, and as for paint, dont buy it from sports authority or walmart or anywhere like that go to a paintball shop

i used to work at sports authority, the paint sits there on the shelves for months if not years before anyone buys it, so by then its all dimpled from sitting in the same place for so long, sure they would move it out to the sale table, but then it would move back to where it was after it didnt sell....
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I started to delete this thinking it wasn't worth it, but I'm just so astonished that you're a moderator.

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NO barrel will increase range.
...except that I watched a Flatline barrel do it two days ago. Swapping back and forth with the stock barrel on another player's A5 made an impressive difference. I don't know what else to say except your blanket statement is stunningly wrong.

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You'll find this in every barrel post; you'll actuallY find every bit of what i'm gonna tell you in every post.
I can't count on two hands the number of forums I read and/or post to regularly. No matter what the topic, I always search before posting. If I had found your exact same comment in every other thread, I probably wouldn't have asked the question. What really shocks me is that you would say something like this when it can easily be proved false.

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Get a J&J ceramics barrel 12-16 inches.
Right, so when people ask me why I bought a J&J I'll tell them "this really knowledgeable moderator told me to". I'm trying to learn, bro. This kind of reply isn't helpful...ever.

I cannot believe you're a moderator.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You'd understand after seeing the same questions over and over for 2 years straight. Because youv'e hurt my E-ego I'll amuse you.

sure they increase range, but as I said they're worthless. don't even consider them; paint floats around at the increased range and generally wont' break if it hits a person anyhow. Add that the the outrageous price on them and you should see why I don't recommend them.

If you do not believe me about giving the J&J barrel suggesting in most every barrel question youv'e obviously not looked through our barrel section posts. There's no need to talk about that any more as I am correct and you are not.

Finally we get to the point of your anger, the reason that I suggest a J&J barrel:

so, why should you get a J&J barrel? they are cheap, $30+shipping at most places. They are made exceptionally well. They have a ceramic coating on the inside that allow you to simply shoot out breaks/chops if one should occur while playing. I'm sure you've experienced one and then lost all control of where you paint goes till you clean the barrel out. Not so with the J&J. give a good 5-10 shots and yor paint will be flying relatively straight again. doesn't mean you don't ever have to clean your barrel, it just means you dont' have to run a squeegee or swab through it during a game.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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...except that I watched a Flatline barrel do it two days ago. Swapping back and forth with the stock barrel on another player's A5 made an impressive difference. I don't know what else to say except your blanket statement is stunningly wrong.

actually what matrix said is correct, but it could have used one more word, the flatline adds no usable distance, by barrel sacrafices speed for that added distance, so yes the balls do go further, but beyond the range of any other barrel they will not break, so what is the use of added range if the paintballs dont break? nothing.......


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I can't count on two hands the number of forums I read and/or post to regularly. No matter what the topic, I always search before posting. If I had found your exact same comment in every other thread, I probably wouldn't have asked the question. What really shocks me is that you would say something like this when it can easily be proved false.
what really shocks me is you are saying this without prooving it true....(other than believing what the tippmann adds tell you)


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Right, so when people ask me why I bought a J&J I'll tell them "this really knowledgeable moderator told me to". I'm trying to learn, bro. This kind of reply isn't helpful...ever.

I cannot believe you're a moderator.

you know if you dont believe us then fine, go buy and a5 and a flatline and when you realize that it was a huge waste of money just remember that we told you it was in the first place, fact is some new player wanting a flatline comes on here about every week, but gennerally they will take our advise when we say "dont buy the $100 barrel that is a gimik, go buy the $30 that is lighter and more accurate" if you already have your mind made up as to what you want then why are you asking us?

I can tell you from personal experience that the flatline doesnt add distance from having a guy shoot at me while playing a game of civil war, not only do the ones that hit all bounce off of me, it hurts his accuracy, so the not-gimik barrel that i have does way better once he is in my range
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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I haven't made up my mind about anything. I mentioned the Flatline barrel because I saw it fire up close and we had a stock barrel on-hand to compare with. Much later during one of the matches I was shot with it at a distance of perhaps 60 feet (we paced it at about 20 paces so call it about 60 feet). It was a comical moment for me and my teammate because we had seen the other guy poke out already and were pretty sure he couldn't hit us. Right then his first shot exploded on my elbow bracket.

Maybe you guys are saying that typically a Flatline has trouble breaking paint on clothing or people's body parts. If so that's fine. All I know is I got shot with one well beyond my own range (again it was probably the crap paint I was using) and it broke with no problem.

Regardless, I'm not going condescend anyone who likes their Flatline barrel.

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If you do not believe me about giving the J&J barrel suggesting in most every barrel question youv'e obviously not looked through our barrel section posts.
Does it get better from here? You're a mod, so read carefully. Again, I have looked, and I was referring to you're claim that you've told everyone in every thread "NO barrel increases range".

I won't argue about it anymore. Answers are coming in on a friendlier forum.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm sorry you find me incompetent and are willing to scrutinize my every work.
have fun on other forums doing the same thing. You'll still never find anythign better than a J&J ceramics barrel.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 03:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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I actually think you should. Newcomers need to know that they've found a forum where moderators make fun of newbies and run threads devoted to doing so.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've never once made fun of you. I've given you all the information you asked for; I can understand that you just don't likeq me, that's cool. Ragging on our forums however, not cool. I'm glad to see you found a place that you enjoy thouhg.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The bottom line with paintball accuracy is that the barrels count for very little good paint and a skilled shooter will always bag more eliminations than any gimmicky product and paintball is filled with gimmicky products.
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