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Old April 14th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Freak Kit vs Deadly Winds

Which one is better (Deadlywinds or a Freak kit)? If I get the freak kit is All American or Superfreak better?
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Old April 14th, 2013, 01:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I prefer the deadliwind, just because I own it. it's super light and very quiet as well.

I think the only difference between freak kits, is that one of them comes with more size insert sleeves.
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Old April 14th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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DW, its not even a contest now that you can get different backs for the fibur

that was the one thing that a lot of people were going towards the freak for. you could get it for a tippmann and then buy a new back for an autococker threaded marker later on. but now that you can do the same thing with the fibur the question is really just

do you want a heavier or lighter barrel?
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Old April 14th, 2013, 01:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think lighter would always be better, right?
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Old April 14th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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unless you want to be thick-skulled and old (there are a few people on here that dont like them because they feel they are "too light")

personally, I have loved mine and even though I now have a J&J edge elite kit as well I doubt it will ever take the place of the fibur as my main barrel
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Old April 15th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Here's my take on it.

You need freak inserts to use either.

The Fibur is one of if not the nicest CF barrel on the market.

I did recently acquire a Whip Tip for the freak back. I'm using that in tourney play just so if i eff up a dive, i'm less likely to snap an entire barrel.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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unless you want to be thick-skulled and old (there are a few people on here that dont like them because they feel they are "too light")
Guilty. I also don't get how people can get a chub on over a marker being 1/18 of an ounce lighter than a previous marker and then strap a case of paint on their back.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 08:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Guilty. I also don't get how people can get a chub on over a marker being 1/18 of an ounce lighter than a previous marker and then strap a case of paint on their back.
I didn't expect it to matter, but it's more of a balance issue. more of the weight sits on your shoulder because of the way levers and fulcrums work.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The further a weight is from the mass supporting it, the more work/effort/strain is put into keeping the weight extended...


Take a 25# weight. hold it at chest height, pressed against your body for 2 minutes. Do the same with your arms fully extended. You'll feel it

But - even with that being said - I find its easier for me to play with a more balanced marker. Having a marker that seems to have more equal weight distribution from tip to tank... makes it easier for me to point and shoot.

Now - if I weren't playing with a heavy older marker... I might opt for a lighter barrel in the interests of Min/Max-ing. But since I'm glutton for punishment - heavy barrel it is!
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I get the theory I just never saw that big of a deal. Maybe if I played more tourney ball with my marker held up longer an ounce or two might be noticeable but as it is I've never really been bothered by it.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I didn't buy it because it's light, I bought it because tit's a fantastic barrel.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 12:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I bought it because tit's
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Freudian slip?

surely this is too wonderful to be a typographical error...I mean, who doesn't like...that? hahahahahahhahaha
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Old April 15th, 2013, 01:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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LOL KCCO was the first thing that came to mind... and you beat me to it
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Old April 15th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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duh, it's FLBP monday!
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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm another that likes the heavier barrels. Since max, the weight of difference of a barrel is like 1/10 the weight of my tank, and I've never shot a barrel that impresses me as much as my J&J Edge.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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my buddy has an edge kit, i'm gonna have to borrow it one day. I really love the 1 piece that I have.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 06:49 PM   #18 (permalink)
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wow, here I am not on here for a day and when I scroll down to get to the end of this thread..


all of a sudden

Tits.....


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Guilty. I also don't get how people can get a chub on over a marker being 1/18 of an ounce lighter than a previous marker and then strap a case of paint on their back.
weight on the arms vs weight on the legs, its just more noticable when it is on your arms, not to mention where it is on the marker

I saw a barrel cover a few years back that also held a single pod on it (to get to really fast or something)

now while hanging onto the tank I bet it is noticeable but try strapping a pod of paint onto the end of your barrel and see how much more you notice it and how much harder the marker is to move around

like martix said, fulcrums and angels and math stuff

this is also one of the reasons i love drops, they change the center of balance of the marker from around the ASA to right at the back of the grip frame so for the most part, if I take my left hand off the marker and extend my right hand fingers and thumb out so they are not wrapped around the grip frame, the marker pretty much stays where it is and level since that point is right where the center of gravity is
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Old April 15th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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speaking of drops, have you seen the drop that MSonic has for his G6R? and that insane air system? that's three tanks all in a row.

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Old April 15th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
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what!? you can get a drop for a G6R!?

suddenly I am interested

but mother of God why would you need that much paint!?

he has 2 packs on doesnt he?
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Old April 15th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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looks like three or more. looks like 3 or so 4packs with 2 or more 2packs
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he's got enough paint to use all of his tanks. it's his scenario get-up that he wears once a day or so. he uses it like a human tank; can't wait to play with him in LL6.


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So I became mobile artillery.

5,440 in Pods. Ninja Air- 90/45 & 50/45 on back. 50/45 on gun.
That drop forward makes for a sweet and well balanced one-handed firing platform. Final version will be gloss black of course.

Paint will weigh 51lbs including the weight of the pods.
Drop forward is made by Nummech, and they're not available yet to the public. He says they'll be out soon.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 02:19 AM   #23 (permalink)
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holy crap. a personal cascade system.
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Yeah. Would NEVER want to carry that much air or paint, but very cool.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Not trying to jack thread but figured while where on the topic of freak barrels I got a quick question. I've read of people boring out any kind of barrel to use with freak inserts. I got a. 689 lucky 15 and would rather have a .682. How does it affect the accuracy and durability of the barrel? How exactly does it all work? Also could a local machine shop do it?
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