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Old January 2nd, 2014, 06:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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deadly wind fibur barrel and freak inserts.

I know this has been discussed before and maybe i didnt get the answer out of it that i needed but i think ill just ask right out. Im from canada so i dont want to order my dw barrel from the states and pay more for shipping and all that good stuff. it says on the website that " I MUST USE SMART PARTS FREAK INSERTS" with the barrel, now i looked it up and im seeing all these gog freak inserts and all these different kinds of inserts from different companies. I know smart parts isnt around as a company anymore but im just confused on what inserts i can use. If i buy the fibur barrel can i buy the gog freak insert kit and its the same thing? if i order it online from the states it only comes with the 4 inserts and the barrel but if i buy the gog freak kit or whatever freak kit it is i can get 8 inserts. So pretty much what i want to know is if i buy a fibur barrel what kit can i buy for it that will work? As long as it says freak on it itll work? Thanks guys.
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Old January 2nd, 2014, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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gog inserts are the same as freak inserts. Empire makes the freak kit now, as well.

Basically, GOG= smart parts now. Empire bought the rigths to the freak kit when smart parts went under.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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last i heard empire still makes them, they call them the "super freak" though.

Frankly, Id rather support empire than gog however to answer your original question yes, all those will work.

Have fun with your DW, i think there are 3 or 4 of us on here who have it and love it
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 04:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The only bad thing I have to say about mine, is that i didn't buy it earlier than I did.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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lol, i wish I got one with straight porting (just a personal preference thing) but other than that, I dont regret the $160ish i paid for it one bit
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 07:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i've got a whip tip now. i love the two piece thing. for some reason i'm scared as hell to do the monster dives with my one piece
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 11:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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dont be, mine took a nose dive onto concrete and was just fine
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Old January 9th, 2014, 10:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Alright guys, ive learned that its not in anyones best interest to listen to just one person to get the information you want. I was thinking of getting the dw barrel because i heard it was deadly accurate with the inserts. Ive been watching videos and there are people telling me to overbore because of humidity and heat and i don't need inserts and all that and that i should just get an overbored barrel. what do you guys think? overbore or underbore? i personally dont see my etek shooting the way that i see most people shooting nice clean straight ropes even with the stock shaft4 barrel i have on my etek and i clean the whole gun after every day and lube everything. Do i just need practice? everyone is recommending the cf dw barrel and the inserts so just lookin for opinions. Thanks.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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over boring may be more safe, but under boring will get you better results shot-to-shot. (more consistent FPS, which results in the paintballs falling at the same spot every shot)

Practice is always good. Go into an empty field and shoot from one end of the field to the other. Note how you have to aim high, in order to get the paintballs to be at body level by the time they get to the other side. A lot of peoples problems when shooting, is that they're so into the moment that they forget that gravity exists. You gotta train yourself to shoot higher than you think you should be, especially when shooting longer distances.

The DW barrel is the best barrel that I have ever used, hands down. It's light AND takes freak inserts? There's just nothing better on the market right now.
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Old January 10th, 2014, 01:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ive been watching videos and there are people telling me to overbore because of humidity and heat and i don't need inserts and all that and that i should just get an overbored barrel.
A) beware of youtube videos, most people have no clue what they are talking about, do not take their word just because they put a video up. I can put a video up telling you how to get 2 miles of range with 100% accuracy but that does not make it true

B) if they are saying you dont need inserts to run the fibur it is a lie. DW also makes the "null" which is just a 1 piece version of the fibur which does not use inserts. The fibur though REQUIRES them

overbore / underbore

I underbore for the most part. it really depends on the situation though. For instance I had a game a few years back that was in freezing conditions with already brittle paint, an underbore was going to tear the paint apart so i just did a snug fit without an underbore

Overbore is easy, you dont have to really worry about it that much, if you are looking for a single piece barrel its usually the way to go as it will allow you to go to a different field that uses different paint and not have to worry as much. With a kit, you can overbore or underbore though so it gives you options. As martix said an underbore will give you better efficiency, accuracy and consistency (dont expect miracles though)

a lot of barrel and paint stuff is just experience more than anything. There really is no "one size fits all" kind of thing for it where if you do A + B + C you will get good results there are just so many other factors like you can get this great DW fibur barrel but if you are running some super crappy paint through it of course you are going to still have bad results

I shoot an etek as well and it really doesnt matter which marker you have, practice will always help. If you usually just buy the cheapest paint at the field when you go, I would suggest getting the mid range stuff the next time and seeing just how good that flies. I have seen the same thing (but towards me) I almost never buy the field grade paint and when playing with walk ons I have had people say that my marker is expensive therefore I have some fantastic accuracy but really its just the paint I buy. Better paint will fly better out of any marker and barrel combo
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Old January 10th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i think he's saying that he's heard that bore matching isn't needed period... not on the fibur
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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well i guess no its not needed but if you are looking for better accuracy and consistency it is a good way to help those along
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Old January 10th, 2014, 07:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Plus if you're going to spend the money on a kit, it's sort of a waste to then just stick a large bore in and call it a day...
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Old January 18th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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everyone has their own thoughts on something no matter what it is. When i was hearing that i didnt really need to bore my paint and that an overbore was going to be just fine i kind of went......ummm I dont think so. The point is that at some point i will be picking up a fibur and an empire bore master kit which in canada will be around 200 and change. its a bit pricey for what id like to spend knowing i could get other barrels and whatnot but why not go for something that is going to be the best in its class all round and spend the extra cash to know i have something that ill use and love for ages.
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Old January 18th, 2014, 07:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've spent close to that on mine. I think my barrel was $85, and I've got all the barrel inserts that I bought one at a time (when things were on sale)
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Old January 19th, 2014, 02:01 AM   #16 (permalink)
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i just got mine all at once and was probably one of the first people on here to pick it up. $165ish well spent in my opinion, it will probably always be in my gear bag even if all my markers change
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