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Old July 1st, 2004, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DYE Boomstick or Flatline

I play woodsball and I was wondering what barrel was better for my Tippmann A5.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ummm i'd say flatline because you could buy barrels like the boomy for less (Facefull paintball magazine says so anyways) and the flatline makes it easier to pick off people at a distance like in more open areas and it would give you the advantage because other peoples barrels would force them to aim upward at greater distances
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Old July 1st, 2004, 05:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How much is the flatline? The boomstick is $123.
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flatline is 119 i think

but if you were to get a boomy why not just spend the xtra couple and get like a evil pipe kit or freak or sumthing
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flatline is 119 i think

but if you were to get a boomy why not just spend the xtra couple and get like a evil pipe kit or freak or sumthing

I agree
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Old July 1st, 2004, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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boomstick for accurasey(sp) because ur paintball with a flatline will rarly go 100 yards because of all the trees
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Old July 1st, 2004, 06:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would go with a freak kit or empire kit( both cost 100$ )
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Old July 1st, 2004, 06:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Id go with the flatline since you like the woods. All you have to do is take care of the flatline and it'll take care of you.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 06:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think flatlines look ugly on A-5s. I don't know why I would want a whole kit of barrels if I shoot the same paintballs all of the time.
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Old July 1st, 2004, 10:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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First off the Freak kit is $200 not $100. You can get the Freak Jr. for $130, it comes with a different barrel and back than the full Freak, and you only get three inserts instead of eight. If you don't play very often or don't plan on upgrading your gun anytime soon, the Freak Jr. is a great option. You can also buy additional inserts for ~$20 should you need them.

Having a kit doesn't mean you have a ton of barrels. Two-piece barrel kits typically have one or two fronts with different size diameter backs (usually four or five) that you change out. Sleeve-insert type use one front, one back and varying sized inserts (usually five to eight) that you change out. The benefits speak for themselves; if you play at a field-paint only field you're practically guaranteed to have a back/insert that will match (or come close to matching) the paint size. Paintballs also expand, so your balls that are usually .689 might expand to .691 on a hot, humid day, or they might contract to .685 on a cold day.

My problem with two-piece kits (like the Empire or Evil Pipe) is you're stuck with that same barrel thread, while with an insert kit you can buy a new back for ~$40 and transfer it over to a new gun with different threads. Instead of having to buy the kit twice, why not buy it once and then buy a new back if needed? Now you have one barrel that will work with two guns.
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doesn't expand mean get bigger?
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Old July 1st, 2004, 10:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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id get a freak jr there real nice in that price range and its not too much more money then the boomy and im not a big fan of flatlines
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Old July 1st, 2004, 11:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah...my mistake. Hey, cut me a break, I just worked a 12-hour shift. My brain's a little on the cooked side right now...

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Old July 2nd, 2004, 12:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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i wouldnt both w/ the 2,i would consider the boomy if it didnt cost so much now, i would go w/ a cp 2-piece and use the rest of the money on a day of play or something, altho people who get the flatline love them so it all comes down to what u like
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 10:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I tried out the flatline yesterday when i was playing woodsball and I must say its awesome. That extra distance it goes is awesome.
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Old July 3rd, 2004, 08:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
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i think a flatline would be the biggest waste of money for woodsball. It's not like it's gonna go 100 yds in the woods, and the only reason flatlines go that far is b/c they curve up and down, which is dumb. It may be ok for other stuff, but not woodsball. Get something that is ACCURATE, not capable of distance, I don't understand how something can be accurate while curving up and down, I say get anything BUT the flatline for woodsball
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Old July 3rd, 2004, 07:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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go flatline man. If your playing woods ball then theirs gonna be gr8 distances between you and your opponent, so i say back up and shoot them in a range where they cant shoot you
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Old July 3rd, 2004, 10:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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flatline is 119 i think

but if you were to get a boomy why not just spend the xtra couple and get like a evil pipe kit or freak or sumthing
exactly...except for the freak part...hate inserts

if you play woodsball get a flateline. period.
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Old July 3rd, 2004, 11:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I took the flatline route with my 98, and all I can say is it was nothing but trouble. Now the flatline fanatics can yell until they're blue in the face, but the problems I had (after having the barrel installed by a Tippmann-certified tech) were constant breakage and having the paintball veer off target at the last second. I also had to use premium paintballs to have a chance of not breaking balls every third shot, so that kind of blew away any chance of playing at a field that requires the use of field paint.

Also, the whole "extended range" thing is more of a mis-stated truth; yes, it does shoot further than most other barrels, however the extra range you get isn't worth anything because the ball is going too slow to break upon impact when it gets that far out. It does give you useful flat-line trajectory at regular barrel ranges, but you'd be better off buying a normal two-piece barrel and saving the money (or putting it towards a more worthwhile addon), or buying a barrel kit for roughly the same price that could be moved on to a higher-end gun if that ever happens. In my experience the Freak kit has been far easier to use on its worst day than the flatline was on its best day.
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Old July 4th, 2004, 12:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Maybe you didn't notice that I said that I used to own one. And that is was nothing but trouble.

My opinions on the flatline are based on my experiences with it. I'm not pulling this out of my ass. But even if I was, the other benefits still speak for themselves: compatibility with any size/make of paintball-try shooting super-brittle tournament paint through your flatline sometime. Or very cheap, very large or very small paint through it-the barrel becomes a blender. Then there's the ability to move a Freak kit on to another gun for a relatively low price. Try putting your $120 flatline on any other gun besides a M98/A-5...not going to happen.
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Maybe you didn't notice that I said that I used to own one. And that is was nothing but trouble.

My opinions on the flatline are based on my experiences with it. I'm not pulling this out of my ass. But even if I was, the other benefits still speak for themselves: compatibility with any size/make of paintball-try shooting super-brittle tournament paint through your flatline sometime. Or very cheap, very large or very small paint through it-the barrel becomes a blender. Then there's the ability to move a Freak kit on to another gun for a relatively low price. Try putting your $120 flatline on any other gun besides a M98/A-5...not going to happen.
yes, i admit that the flatline isnt even decent with field paint. but if your playing back-yard-ball and able to buy your own paint it is still exceptional.
yes, the freak kit is better for play when you dont have control over the paint.
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The way I see it, why limit yourself to backyard ball? What if you get past that stage and want to go play at commercial fields that require the use of field paint? Plus, I would look at a flatline as too expensive for your average backyard player. Why tie up $100+ in a barrel when all you ever do is play with your friends?
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