to any dye/ proto owner or tech - Paintball Forum - Paintball guns and gear forums

Reply

Old May 31st, 2009, 08:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
to any dye/ proto owner or tech

i have a problem with my pm6. as soon as i put my tank on the air just rushes out of the chamber. i put a full 4500 tank on there and in two or less seconds it was down to 2000. please help me figure this out. thanks
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old May 31st, 2009, 09:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
Established member
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 9,221
Front (down barrel) or back of the marker? 90% likely just an oring.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2009, 09:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
its coming out of the front
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old May 31st, 2009, 09:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
Authoritah!
 
martix_agent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 23,645
yeah it's gotta be an o-ring.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
martix_agent is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 1st, 2009, 10:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
an o-ring on what? do you think it could be in the reg?
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2009, 12:45 AM   #6 (permalink)
Authoritah!
 
martix_agent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 23,645
the bolt. spool valve makers eat orings liek it's free candy. get used to changing them often
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
martix_agent is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2009, 11:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
get a rebuild kit on ebay and replace every o-ring on the bolt they are a few bucks and its always a good idea to have extras around
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2009, 09:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
i checked the bolt and all my o-rings are in good shape
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2009, 09:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
Established member
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 9,221
Doesn't matter, they might look in good shape, but one or more of them is damaged. You can't usually see the damage, but it's there.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2009, 10:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
all right ill change them and ill repost if it still messes up. thanks guys
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2009, 12:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
that happened to me, cost me 2 months and about $200 before i found the problem...but now i got replacement parts for about a decade
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
alright guys or gals. i went and bought a rebuild kit and replaced every o-ring on the bolt, internal and external. the air is still rushing out of the front of the gun. i have a friend that says it might be the noid. do any of you agree?
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
its a long shot but it could be, if you have no air in the marker can you hear it clicking when you pull the trigger with eyes off?

check your LPR pressure as well, if it is too low the bolt may be stuck forward and therefore venting, when you air it up and look down the feedneck can you see the bolt sticking forward at all?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 01:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
yes i can hear it clicking with the eyes off. so does that mean that the noid is bad?
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
Authoritah!
 
martix_agent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 23,645
no it's supposed to do that.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
martix_agent is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 01:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Nor*Tex's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,186
Reset your lpr. Like trbo said, it seems like youve got it way too low.
__________________
OSU


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Nor*Tex is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 13th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
and make sure the bolt is all the way back when you air it up DO NOT have your finger down the feedneck when you air it up though
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 01:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
alright i dont know if i "reset" my lpr but i took it out and cleaned it and changed all the o-rings and the air is still coming out of the chamber
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #19 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
no by "reset" he means to return it to its factory setting (measured in turns out from closed tight) basically take out your hex key you use to adjust it, turn it all the way in (clockwise) and then turn it out......umm well i THINK its like 2.5 turns but i could be wrong, i forgot a while ago what stock setting is, anyone know for sure?

its kind of sounding like you took it apart and when you put it back together you just screwed it all the way in which means your noid is not getting any air, if the noid is not getting any air the air in your dump chamber will be pushing the bolt forward slightly untill it clears the top hat and can rush out the barrel

im still looking for an answer on weather or not you see the bolt sticking forward though, it will tell us a lot
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 02:46 AM   #20 (permalink)
Established member
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 9,221
I wanna say you're right as far as 2.5 turns. But like you, am not absolutely certain.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
lol, so the people who own the matrixs dont know, well i never use it anyway, i set it up and forget about it, why use stock when you got get it better?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 10:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
Established member
 
tlmiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 9,221
Basically, I can't remember the last time I actually adjusted a LPR in one of my Matrices. I probably will soon on my DM5 since it's about time for a LPR maintenance on it though.
__________________
Yes, I have long since accepted that I have issues, with that said, here's:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tlmiller is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 11:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
uh ok i got ya now. ill go back and count the turns. but about the bolt. does it need to be sticking out some? cause when i look down the feed neck i just see the tip of it...i dont think i see an o-ring or anything but ill have to look again. hope that helps some.
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 14th, 2009, 09:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
Super Legit
 
Trbo323's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 13,998
k the bolt is where it is supposed to be, thats exactly what mine looks like. which leads me back to thinking its an o-ring but you.......O!!! O MAN!!! I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS!, ok so when you replaced the o-rings did you use the sizes in the manual? the reason i ask is because there is a misprint in the manual that gives you 1 size too small on one of the o-rings, i can probably find wich one it is if you need it but answer my question first so if thats not the case i dont have to dig for it
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


^^^If you are new, click here^^^


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

^^^ Putting together your tool bag?? Click here! ^^^
Trbo323 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Old June 15th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 14
yes i used what the manual said but i had to use a manual on the proto website
mdellis171 is offline View My Blog!   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc. Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1