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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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18+ Section.

I think it's time. The general population is getting to that age. I vote that if it's made, it's not visible to new members or the general population unless your in the section. I'll moderate it if you need it, all content legal, but a section that we can be more lax with rules wise.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I proposed a NWS section a long time ago. It'll never happen.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 01:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old December 11th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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dooms says no as well, as do I.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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im not going to say yes or no, but i am wondering why people are saying no to the idea?
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Old December 11th, 2008, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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im not going to say yes or no, but i am wondering why people are saying no to the idea?
Just how are you going to enforce the age? That's the real issue. If someone cheated their way in by faking their age it brings liability to the forum itself.

I think it would be cool to have such a section. It could provide a spot for even more discussion.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old December 11th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Just how are you going to enforce the age? That's the real issue. If someone cheated their way in by faking their age it brings liability to the forum itself.

I think it would be cool to have such a section. It could provide a spot for even more discussion.
if there is also a min. post count associated with it then I dont think that would be an issue, dont run it as open to everyone who is over 18, run it as a "by permision only" type of thing (like the admin chat) that way the person should be around long enoufgh for whoever is the Mod on the 18+ section to judge for themselves if they think the person is over 18. if it is in question if the person is actually over 18, simply dont give them permission to post there. its not like they cant post in the lounge anyway.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Adding a section where you can show titties and talk about drinking wont' help us grow. It'll just appease 3-4 members.

I also don't see how it'll help us as a paintball forum...which, after all, we are.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 05:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Adding a section where you can show titties and talk about drinking wont' help us grow. It'll just appease 3-4 members.

I also don't see how it'll help us as a paintball forum...which, after all, we are.
not like 80% of the forum activity isn't in the lounge/lounge subforums anyways. It can't hurt, assuming like said before, each person allowed is on an invite-only basis, and there could be time/post count requirements as well.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 05:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Adding a section where you can show titties and talk about drinking wont' help us grow. It'll just appease 3-4 members.

I also don't see how it'll help us as a paintball forum...which, after all, we are.
I see your point, i guess I agree with the 18+ section if it were for a intelectual conversation type of area, not if its just going to be a section of the site for porn and uncencored swearing, theres plenty of that already on the net, go somewhere else if thats what your looking for.

so if the same rules would apply in this area as the rest of the forum, how many would still vote it is created?

if that is the case i would vote to create it, it would be nice to have an area without ankle bitters
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Old December 11th, 2008, 05:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I see your point, i guess I agree with the 18+ section if it were for a intelectual conversation type of area, not if its just going to be a section of the site for porn and uncencored swearing, theres plenty of that already on the net, go somewhere else if thats what your looking for.

so if the same rules would apply in this area as the rest of the forum, how many would still vote it is created?

if that is the case i would vote to create it, it would be nice to have an area without ankle bitters
we already have the supporter subforum and the senior member forum, both of which are dead, and basically anybody we would would have in this 18+ is people who already (for the most part) can post in the senior forum....so a regular area for 18+ would be pointless
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Old December 11th, 2008, 06:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We talk about enough in the lounge anyway, when Medic is away. I don't need to come to PBF for porn.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's just going to halt forum growth and kill the forum faster. Think about it. If most of the activity here takes place in the lounge, and we make most of that activity invisible to the general population, then the forum is going to give the appearance that it's dead. And why would anyone post on a dead forum for paintball advice when they can go to PbN and get 15 useful answers (plus about 30 answers calling the OP a ***) in a matter of minutes?

With that being said, I think the main problem we already have on this forum is failure of the population as a whole to accept new, younger members.

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Old December 11th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The reason that we aren't getting any new members is because we lost our Xpaintball sponsorship. From working in the shop you would not believe how many people start their searches there. 9 in every 10 ballers in the country have accounts on PBN. That, Cobra selling out and getting absorbed by some forum running Guru, I just hope the ****ing site makes it. When I came here I was a noob with a tippmann and I've played everything from D-Day/Stalingrad to D2 tournys and pitting for D1 teams for fun. I've reffed, fixed and resold, and played for sponsors go get money for get money to play more ball. I owe most, if not all of that to this forum.

I don't ball anymore, I hardly have any stuff left over, my hobbies now are 10x more expensive, but for some reason I cant stop coming to pbf.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 08:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I've never understood why we lost out sponsorship. Wonder if anyone on here knows the reason why. the the contract run out, did we do something wrong? does xpaintball even exist anymore?
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Old December 11th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I've never understood why we lost out sponsorship. Wonder if anyone on here knows the reason why. the the contract run out, did we do something wrong? does xpaintball even exist anymore?
last i checked they were going out of buisness, it was all over the site, stuff said it was nolonger in buisness but the site was still there and ou coulld brose around all you wanted but the checkout was disabled. but i just went to the site and it is there, it just looks a lot different

just a hunch, but id guess we lost it because xpaintball tanked and the ownership changed

but as far as the 18+ section, i see no reason for it if its only going to be a porn section, 1/3 of the net is already porn i see no reason to try and make that 1/3 closer to 1/2
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Old December 11th, 2008, 08:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I dunno i think they were still kickin when we left..

anyhow i've suggested we pick up another sponsorship liek that to our new admin, but he doesn't seem all that passionate about getting it done. he did think it was a good idea though.

I think it's time i made a post in the moderator forum..
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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Matrix, I'll just be honest here and say that I don't really think our admin/owner cares about this forum much. He can tell us that he thinks it a good idea, but he has no initiative to actually help us. I think that if we can show were part of a network of legit forums run by him, we'll serve a better chance to get a sponsorship. But no one is going to sign us up without checking the forum out, sniffing around a bit and checking to see if it's something that they want their name all over.

I checked out Xpaintball.com, and they do seem to be pretty stripped down version of what they use to be. They also are running their own forum now I see. It looks pretty bare, but it's still their own.

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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I agree with you. we seem to be a part of a large, corporate system that is held alive by keywords and adds.. it's pathetic really.

We've got some work to do if we want to attract a site of any sort, that's for sure. We've got a good base of stickies, but most of them are at least a year old now.


not to offend you, but youv'e admitted that you no longer follow/play paintball, how would you contribute to our growth?
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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well, lots of the mods no longer play. I no longer play competitive paintball, but I do play rec often. I have played at every level of paintball, and nearly every style. I have been playing for about 8 years all together, and owned everything from the new DM and PM series, Ego's, all kinds of cockers, Spyders, Tippmann's, I've owned them all. I manage the paintball and paintball service sections at Scheels in Omaha were I work. I am very active in following the market, seeing whats selling and where the margins are.

Stickies need updating, a lot of them just need to be cleaned in general. A super sticky like the Autococker section has would be helpfull for our Make/Model forums. I think we need to show our senior members, and supporters being active, drawing more people into the field. Whenever I sell a new gun or package to someone getting into the sport, I always recommend they come to the forum and look me up for any additional questions or help they need. We just need to be ACTIVE about all of this.
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Old December 11th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hey now I still help out at my local field when they need a ref. :-)

I like RB. I think he would be a good mod. I mean it's not much work.

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Old December 11th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm just saying it'd be nice to have a place on here where the regulars can kick back and just bend the rules a little bit. You know, swapping invites to torrents, porn, **** like that. Also the ability to talk about whatever the **** we want to. So far I've had to do this stuff through PMs lol. Wes also introduced me to a great fap site haha.
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I'm just saying it'd be nice to have a place on here where the regulars can kick back and just bend the rules a little bit. You know, swapping invites to torrents, porn, **** like that. Also the ability to talk about whatever the **** we want to. So far I've had to do this stuff through PMs lol. Wes also introduced me to a great fap site haha.
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