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Old March 21st, 2009, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I wanted to switch to compressed air but there are so many brands out there I'm wondering which one to get? I can only have a tank that has a pressure of up to 3000 psi and no more. My local dive shop isn't able to fill the 4500 psi tanks. They said not to get carbon fiber because it can easy burst if bumped or hit. Tanks are made of many different materials like steel, carbon fiber, aluminum and fiber glass. What are the advantages/disadvantages of the different materials. I found a fiber glass tank that can run on C02 or compressed air. Would that be safe? I have a Tippmann A-5 and I want to get a tank that will provide the maximum amout of shots with minimum size. Keep in mind I will be using an air remote. I realize air tanks are very expensive even so let me know what is really good no matter the price.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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carbon fiber is very strong, one of the strongest materials out there, and in all my years of paintballing, not once have i heard of a paintball tank bursting.. there are two major differences between carbon fiber tanks and steel tanks, those differences are weight and price

steel tanks = cheaper but heavy
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carbon fibur tanks = more expensive but lighter



deoending on the tanks you are comparing the weight difference can be anywhere from 1 - 3 pounds so the weight difference is a BIG deal

i have a pmi steel 72/3000
and a pmi carbon fiber 45/4500 and i always use the carbon fiber tank

there's my 2 cents
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Old March 21st, 2009, 05:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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CO2 will technically give you the most shots out of the smallest tank, and honestly, I wouldn't get an HPA tank if all you're going to get is a 3000psi one.

As long as you have a tank cover on your tank, are are just careful with it, there will be absolutely no problems with using a carbon fiber/fiber wrapped/etc. hpa tank. Hell, sopme pro's just put duct tape on the back to help with grip and dive and slide all the time with no damage to their tanks.

Even if you're shop or field doesn't fill to 4500psi, I'd still get a 4500psi tank. If they start to fill to 4500psi, than you're all set, and won't have to buy a new tank.

The whole carbon fiber wrapped tanks get damaged easily is a whole bunch of cocka-poopie, their tough as nails.
Carbon fiber HPA tanks are also much lighter and smaller than any 3000psi tank, and will definately give you way more shots than a 3000psi tank of the same size.

Go 4500psi and you won't regret it
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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If I can't get a 4500psi tank filled then why would I get it? Why shouldn't I get a 3000psi tank? can a 4500psi tank still be pressured only to 3000psi and still work, just not get as many shots? I can't find anyone that can fill up to 4500psi only 3000psi. Do you know anyhting about the fiberglass tank form Draxxus? I'm grateful for the help.
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3000spi simply won't hold enough air to be worth your time; especially since you're wanting or own a tippman.

in all reality a co2 tank woudl be a better choice for you for the reasons that azn gave.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yes, a 4500 PSI tank can be filled up to 3000 PSI and work just as well as if it were filled up all the way, the only difference is you don't have as much air, i think what you want is co2 though, it seems like you are more interested in shots per fill and weight than accuracy and consistency,
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If I can't get a 4500psi tank filled then why would I get it? Why shouldn't I get a 3000psi tank? can a 4500psi tank still be pressured only to 3000psi and still work, just not get as many shots? I can't find anyone that can fill up to 4500psi only 3000psi. Do you know anyhting about the fiberglass tank form Draxxus? I'm grateful for the help.

I want the reliability and consistancy of compressed air. Do you have any answers to the other question I have?
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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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about brands of tanks?
don't worry about it no brand is over another really. I'd pick up a PMI tank because they're the cheapest; they wont' have the fastest recharge rate on teh regulator, but i dont' foresee you having an issue with that.
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Thanks. Have you heard about the fiberglass tank by Draxxus? what would the advantage be?
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it's jsut like any other fiber wrapped tank.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What about the issue of my local dive shop only being able to fill tanks up to 3000psi? Would it still work to get a 4500psi tank and fill it up to 3000psi?
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the only difference i see between fiber glass and carbon fiber is that fiber glass's hydro test only lasts for 3 years, as for the weight comparrison's i couldn't give you an honest answer because i've never seen a fiber glass tank in person let alone hold one myself..

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because maybe later on in your paintball career you WILL come across a store or a place that you can fill it all the way up to 4500 and on that day you will thank us,

plus pretty much all carbon fiber tanks by the same manufacturer are the same price, so getting a 3000 psi carbon fiber tank is just ridiculous..
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Should I just use C02 in the mean time? Would do you recomend?
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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if you want, im not sure whether or not a-5 works with co2 because im not familiar with tippmann and i don't want to tell you to go ahead and use co2 if it doesn't take co2 because it might screw your gun up, but if it does then co2 would be fine, it gets the job done just not as well as compressed air
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Old March 21st, 2009, 09:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It runs on C02 just fine but I need the consistancy of compressed air. Until I can fill and use a 4500psi tank do you think I should by a 3000psi tank? I conserve my shots and don't need to much air, but it's always nice to have more air.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 10:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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that's a waste of money, just get the 4500 psi tank,
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Wait I'm confused. It will be a long time if at all until I will be able to fill a 4500psi tank. If I buy the 4500psi tank can I partially fill it using only 3000psi? Thanks for the help.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 10:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
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yes, that is possible, think of it as a water bottle, you have a 1 liter bottle and a 2 liter bottle, but you only have 1 liter of filtered of filtered water, that one liter of water will still fit in the 2 liter bottle even though it's only 1 liter..

the point is that there is only ONE difference between 3K and 4.5K is that one holds more,
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Wow thanks. One last question though. How many shots less would I get if the tank was a 68/4500 filled with 3000psi?
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the same as you would get with a 3000psi tank.

I'd say about 500-700 ona tippman, I coudl eb way off though
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Old March 21st, 2009, 11:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok great, I guess you've convinced me on getting a 4500psi tank. Granted I will do a tad more research but I will probably get one soon. THANKS!
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no problem, im glad to help =]
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Thanks man I will probably go with your recomendations.
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Question, (not you parker) lol but your saying the only dif between and steel and carbon tank is weight? I have a Dm4 and i will be using it for speedball and woodsball, what should i go with?
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Old March 25th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
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carbon, and there ARE more diffences, i was just trying to make a point, carbon fiber tanks usually hold more, you can't find a steel 4500 psi tank
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