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Old November 11th, 2011, 08:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vlocity Vs. Kingman Fasta (9v) vs. Evlution 4 vs. Fasta (18v) vs Too.

Lot's of loader options. Each one is more expensive than the other but I can afford up to the TOO, no more, but I don't kno which one is better (the less expensive the better as far as it's good enough).

Vlocity - $40

Fasta (9v) - $50

Evlution 4 - $50

Fasta (18v) - $70

TOO - $73

I'll like to know mostly everything on each hooper, beacue in the description they never tell you the cons, just the pros (Like battery efficiency and such). I know all of them are good hoopers but one might have the worst battery life and another one might be very noisy. I don't knoe any og this on any ogf this loaders, so wich ones are the pros and cons on this loaders?

PS I use a TM-15, which has less sound signature than othe markers, will the TOO still work properly if I were to pick it (but I still want to knoe about the other loaders).

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Old November 11th, 2011, 08:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Vlocity - Fragile shells, WAY small opening. Vlocity JR. fixes the opening (at the expense of about 20 ball capacity). Horrible on batteries. But if you buy yourself a good set of rechargeables, then it will perform wonderfully.

Fasta (9v) - skip it. Worse than a Vlocity Jr. other than capacity.

Evlution 4 - Skip it. Worse than throwing your money in the garbage. Soooooo many issues with these it's not even funny. At least they fixed the shells so they don't blow apart if you look at them wrong.

Fasta (18v) - Fantastic hopper actually. Doesn't get nearly the respect it deserves. Great capacity, internals are nearly the same as the Pinokio. Good (not great) battery life.

Too - Very few things to fault with this. It's one of the best selling hoppers for a reason. Not the best capacity, but still quite decent, good speed, reliable, good battery life. Sound activated so no hassling with eyes getting blocked. Can put a rip drive in if you want. Can upgrade with a clutch system if you'd like. Really is a fantastic hopper.

My favorites on this list is the Too (obviously) and the Fasta 18v. Depending on price, I like the EyeForce also. Better capacity than the Too, same mouth, uses eyes instead of sound, and a bit annoying to take apart (you need a long shaft phillips), but the way it comes apart, is REALLY easy to clean well, feeds fast, and is great on batteries.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 09:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with the Fasta and the Too. Eyeforce is also good and surprisingly fast.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 01:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So Too or Fasta 18v. Maybe I'll get the Fasta, becuase I don't trust sound activated hoopers with a TM-15, I have a TM-Series Rip Clip and I just have issues over issues, I don't know why, everybody says its a great hooper (plus its horrible on batteries, I have to change them every game if I want to have it up I ready, but It hames a lot). So, can I trust the Too with a TM-15?
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Old November 12th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yes, key about the too and the empire line of sound activated hoppers is just to turn them on in a quiet place and then leave them on all day. i ran mine on a mini and it did fine. had more issues with it on a dm6 but once i learned to turn it on in a quiet area it did great.

iv never liked the shells on the fafsa but other than that i think its a decent hopper. id still take the too over it though
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Old November 12th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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żI have to leave my Rip CLip on all day for it to work properly?
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Old November 12th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i think we had a discussion about this before and the rip clip works a little different. but it sure would be worth a try.

heres what happens at least for the empire reloader and the too, when you turn it on it takes a base line reading of the sound around it, then if it hears anything that is significantly higher than that base line it determines that that is a shot and loads more paint, if however, you turn it on somewhere really noisy then that baseline is set too high and when you shoot it is not high enough over that baseline for the hopper to think you are shooting
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Old November 14th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I say screw the Rip Clip. If I can trust you and I can, I will consider the Too, thanks. But just in case, what comes inmediately after the Too (Something that is better then the Too, that is a little bit more expenisve than the TOO)?.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Used Pinokio/Prophecy, Magna if you can still find one new and don't mind that it's backheavy (and no longer made), upgraded used Reloader B2's. Honestly, throw a magna clutch system and rip drive in the too and other than being easier to clean, you basically have a Prophecy.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 05:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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prophecy, Pinocchio, rotor

the 3 heavyweights in hoppers. each has their ups and downs
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Old November 14th, 2011, 06:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Screw the Rotor, its to damn expensive. So between the Pinokio and Prophecy, which one?
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Prophecy smaller, slightly easier to clean. Pinokio holds a few more, will basically never jam, and is about as simple tech as you can get. I have both and love both.
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Old November 14th, 2011, 08:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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the rotor at $160 is too expensive over the pinokio at $140-$150 and the prophecy at $120 or a prophecy z2 at $170?
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Old November 14th, 2011, 08:33 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'd ake a prophecy over a pinikio. Peopel say it's small, they post pictures and dimensions...

When you're playing with it though, it feels like a boat
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the rotor at $160 is too expensive over the pinokio at $140-$150 and the prophecy at $120 or a prophecy z2 at $170?
Last I looked used Pinokios are around $100-$120. And I've seen Prophecies now at $70-$80 used.
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I got my prophecy or $35. came with a cracked shell that kee replaced for free
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I wonder if kee would send me the v2 metal neck? I should call them.
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my feedneck was broken, even with the metal insert
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Mines still in good shape, but I'd like to get the metal insert just for safety sake. My Prophecy is starting to get some age to it.
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Last I looked used Pinokios are around $100-$120. And I've seen Prophecies now at $70-$80 used.
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yes, but that's the same state as a $160 Rotor. Apples to apples.
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or a $100 used rotor, whats your point?
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You don't see many sold for $100 since Dye jacked the price of new ones up to $200. Most are in the $140-$160 range. But by the same token, $35 prophecy like martix found. Used prophecy less than 1/2 the price of a used Rotor.
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and how many used prophecys can be had at $35?
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and how many used prophecys can be had at $35?
I think that's the point he's trying to make.
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