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Old November 25th, 2007, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation I read a really bad review about the invert mini

So was on pbreview reading up on the invert mini when i came across this...

" I bought this marker as a gift for my son in March. We owned it for about a week before we decided to take it back to the paintball store we bought it from. I see from the recent reviews that other people had better luck than I did. I hope I just received a "lemon".
I bought this from our local paintball store as a gift for my son. When we got it back home I checked it out better. I am impressed with the locking case it comes in. I like the price. I read the manual. It was pretty cut and dry, easy to understand and adjust settings. I was really impressed when we turned the eyes off and dry fired it, we then tried the different modes. Very nice.
This was when it all went bad. We put air and a Pulse loader to it. It did air up no problems. I put old paint in it and it chopped. I did not even get 10 balls shot thru it. No problem, it was probably the old paint. Bought a fresh case,no dimples etc...Chop, chop, chop. I tried it slowly it still chopped.
When buying this at the paintball store I ran into a guy who had said that I would have to turn up the bip as it is set super low from the factory. When resetting the board he said to raise the bip up alot because it is wrong from the factory. So, I tried that. It did not work. The very next day after buying it I had to take it back to be fixed from the paintball store where I bought it from.
I received it back a few days later and they said they talked to a tech and he walked them thru the problem. It was a setting of the dwell. When resetting the board the setting for dwell is 38, my board only resets to 28. So instead of replacing a defective board they just set it up to 38 manually. Keep in mind the dwell on this mini is adjustable from 1-40 and default setting is 38. So, you can only adjust one way really. From what I remember from the manual, the bip was the same way,adjustable from 1-40 and it's default had it set real low like 8 or something.I had also found out that I had the newer version 1.2 of the board so it was revised already. So then they shot 2 hoppers of paint thru it and said it was good.
My son went to the field the next day and of course it would not shoot, just chop, chop, chop. So I went into the board and made sure the settings were exactly as the manual says its supposed to be and tried shooting paint thru 1 ball at a time. I also turned the reg pressure down all the way the slow the bolt down. As I looked at it, it looked as if the ball would hit the detents and go up and try to feed back to the hopper. Exactly what it was doing. Back feeding into the hopper. At that point I tried taking the detents out to see if the spring tension was adjustable which it is not. so I cleaned them, and put them back together. Then I took the mini back to the store and demanded my money back. They finally let me exchange it for a different marker. They said they probably would not be selling anymore Minis because they don't want to lose all of their customers.
Since that whole experience, I have no big problems with the mini, it seems like a nice marker until you shoot paint thru it. If it wasn't for poor quality control, this review would be flip-flopped right now. But because my mini did not shoot even 1 ball at a time I gave gave this a 1. I also took into account that the default settings on the board were totally messed up straight from the factory. Also that customer service would not replace a defective board."

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Old November 27th, 2007, 12:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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it doesn't sound like they contacted KEE about the problem at all. Everything i've been reading on nation about it sounds like they are really trying to impress people since they are the newbies on the scene. every problem i've ready about it on nation where the user contacted kee, got their new parts sent or sent the marker back and had it fixed under warranty. I doubt this is accurate at all.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When the Invert first came out there were some problems, but that is all history. I've hade mine a few months now and it works great.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 12:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Any reviews on pbreview should be taken with about a pound of salt.

In this particular case, his experience with the Mini is rather limited, and his experience in owning other guns is pretty limited as well. For having played four years, only testing out four other types of guns is unusually minimal.


I'm not saying completely disregard whatever you read there, just take into account that 90% of the time, these are unexperienced players/writers, they're often biased, and their experience with the product in question is often limited. Pay close attention to the "Similar products used", "Paintball Experience", and "Period of product use" when reading pbReview.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 08:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Yeah he got a lemon or is an idiot, or possibly both. I have an Olive Mini with Vlocity loader that works just dandy. I have only put a tank of air through it so far but not a single problem so far. Not sure how many hoppers I shot through it but all at blistering fast rates with no breakage or any other sort of hiccup. This was with old ****ty paint, still no breaks.

Taking on the field today with good paint we shall see how it performs in the real world today.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 04:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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cool thanks for the posts, that what i was guessing just thought i should throw it out there.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 04:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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so you think the invert mini is actually a good marker???
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so you think the invert mini is actually a good marker???
Yes most definitely
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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oh ok thanks because im in love with that marker and i'll probably get one soon...
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Old May 28th, 2008, 08:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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yeah the 1.1 had some poppet/board problems but keeeeee fixed it.

the "bought it for my son" reviews dont ever go over good

1 out of 100 isnt bad for a $400 marker!
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pfft no.............







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Old May 28th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Doesn't sound like he broke the mini in, which is very important for a gun of that design.
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Old May 30th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Even if not properly broken in, the new guns still work fantastic. I put 2 cases through my mini, withtout following the break in post here, and had 0 balls break.

The gun is fantastic its all i can say about it.
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Even if not properly broken in, the new guns still work fantastic. I put 2 cases through my mini, withtout following the break in post here, and had 0 balls break.

The gun is fantastic its all i can say about it.
Man speaks the truth. I got mine in and immediately aired it up. Though it had a leak from the air tube in the grips(Easy fix, just lubed the O-ring in it) it shot flawlessly once I got it working.
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Man speaks the truth. I got mine in and immediately aired it up. Though it had a leak from the air tube in the grips(Easy fix, just lubed the O-ring in it) it shot flawlessly once I got it working.
Mine came with the leak in the grip as well, but it was the bottom regulator set to low for the lp air i was putting through it.

Love this gun
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