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Old May 10th, 2005, 01:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Debating between 2 bolts....

I have heard quite a bit about that blue bolt...So im debating if id rather want a blue bolt or a shockteck supafly i think thats what its called...What one is truly better? Also for the blue bolt im kind of new to paintball guns so im not exactly sure how to install an auto cocker cocking rod and so fourth....Also i have an imagine 05...
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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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bluebolt, fisrt off the sufafly has a small venturi, thats never good, if u buy a blue bolt
u will see y it is better when the small metal cocking rod (that ur gonna have to also )outweighs the bolt by at least 3 times. thats how light the blue bolt is. also u dont have to worry about a bluebolt swelling. if u can screw a screw into a whole u can install a cocking rod, thats all it is, a threaded rod screwing into the back of the bolt
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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm going bluebolt as well, but for a different reason.

The bluebolt has O-rings to help it seal, and the supa-fly doesn't. The lack of them on the one bolt could let a lot of gas around it which means worse effecency, or if the blow-back is bad enough, cracked paint in the feedneck.

But then, if you're not cool with the cocking rod install, there's not much point in getting that bolt. Plus that would add to the cost slightly.
On an ideal bolt, you should have no air coming up the feedneck. On the o-ringless bolts I have, the blowback is bad enough that I have actually watched the ball stack 'float' between the gun and the hopper inside the clar feedneck.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 05:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I might have to get a new bolt too. My acs (aluminum) bolt has never chopped, but the blowback on it is so bad that I can't get anywhere above 240fps consistently, even after a spring kit, modded spring guide and some extensive tinkering. So thats another thing you have to worry about with blowback, sorry to get off topic.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 05:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe you could befriend someone with a lathe and ask them to cut some O-ring slots on there like the stock bolt. Since it's aluminum you wouldn't have to worry about oiling them and swelling the derlin.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 07:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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I'd reccomend the Spudnuk'l bolt. They are available in Delrin or Nylatron, and they have Oring slots. Good buy off of Ebay.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 08:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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so a spudnukl or a blue bolt, how much would either cost?
pm a link to a website of either
I kno the cost of the supafly
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Old May 10th, 2005, 09:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Okay so about bolts in specific, how exactly do i install one on the imagine 05? Plz be specific as that i am new to this kind of stuff! Thanks!
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Old May 10th, 2005, 10:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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New bolts are worthless, and a waste of time and money. If theres nothing wrong with the one you have then why buy a different one. You wont notice a difference.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 02:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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New bolts are worthless, and a waste of time and money. If theres nothing wrong with the one you have then why buy a different one. You wont notice a difference.
wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun. with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
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Old May 11th, 2005, 03:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The scratches on the stock bolt are harmless. If you polish the bolt a little and deburr the feed neck holes it won't happen nearly as bad.

New bolts don't necessarly seal better either. Even in this very thread there's more than one example of after market bolts not sealing very well at all.
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i am really bad about remembering to clean and oil the gun so i need something delrin

pm any cheap delrin bolt links
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Nylatron is another lubricant free material. It is also supposedly less apt to swell and distort in bad temperatures / high humidity.

These bolts can be picked up for under 25$ shipped from Ebay seller named Tessa991.

Look it up, its a great bolt.
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All most all derlin bolts made anymore shouldn't swell. From what I've heard they do something different now so swelling isn't as big of an issue now.

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wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun.
Yes it will scratch up the inside, nothing big enough to harm performance in anyway.

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with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
The weight doesn't even matter. When you have one or the other in the marker you won't feel any difference weight wise.

I would reccomend the blue bolt for the reasons torch gave. You want a good sealing bolt and the blue bolt will do that for you
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Old May 14th, 2005, 04:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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lots of good help but could someone tell me how to install a new bolt in my imagine 05? Please give a lot of detail, since i am new to this stuff! Thanks!
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Old May 14th, 2005, 07:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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do u have an imagine, if so read the manual, or just mess around with it remembering where everything goes, installing a bolt is simple
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Old May 14th, 2005, 02:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun. with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
The stock bolt will never ruin the gun, it just needs a little sanding. Who cares if the bolt is half the wait of the stock one you wont notice a difference and once again even if it does seal a little tighter you wont notice a difference. What is with people spending so much on money on stupid little upgrades when you could save up a little and buy nice gun.
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Old May 14th, 2005, 09:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
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supafly! definately thats best bolt ive ever had.
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Old May 16th, 2005, 11:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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personaly, and this is what im doing, just dont buy a bolt cus it doesnt affect preformance hardly at all, and save up for better investments like a better gun, or a hpa tank. or a better hopper, or barrel.
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