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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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electra sear wont disengage

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I ordered a new marker as the electra is giving me more problems so i upgraded to the invert mini but i would still like to get this marker up and running as a backup. The issue i currently have is that the sear does not disengage. IE i pull the trigger i hear the click of the solenoid but it doesnt shoot. If i keep pulling the trigger maybe 1-10 or 20 times it actually shoots. The battery is a spyder 9.6v battery charged for 6 hours via a wall charger through the board. With the lower removed from the upper i can see the sear moving up and down when i hit the trigger with no issues. I disassembled the entire gun and lubed all the o rings. I notice that when it does shoot i can feel air from the plug under the barrel as well as a little through the vent hole on the regulator, not sure if this is an issue or not. Any trouble shooting tips you can give me i appreciate.

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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you mean that air is coming out the torpedo looking thing under the barrel (called the volumizer), then that is not normal, it should not leak air.
I don't think you should be feeling any air leaking from your reg either, maybe it needs some lube?

Well, what you're describing sounds most like a weak battery.
Does this version of the electra charge the battery by pluging in the entire marker to the wall? If so, try shooting with it plugged into the wall and see if it helps any.

I've also had the same thing happen to me because I had my rear grip frame screw loose. It was on tight enough to engage the sear, but something about that grip not lining up properly made it much more difficult for the sear to drop. Try tightening down on all your screws a bit, and definitely tighten down any screws that you may find that are loose.
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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There are 2 tubes on the body one holds the bolt and barrel the other the sear and the reg connects to. On the front is a plug and when o shoot I can feel bursts of air same from the reg small bursts of air when I shoot.

As far as charging how long should I leave it plugged in? It is charged trough the board yes and I did 6 hours and no love so maybe I'll do another 6.

I took the lower off and put it back on nice and tight and still the same issue.
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Old January 7th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm talking about this thing, the #2


That is the volumizer
If it is leaking air from there, that is bad.

So you only feel this air when you shoot?
Are you sure it's coming from the front?
The valve on your spyder is attached via a plug screwing into a hole in the valve, and when shooting, some air may escape from that area (which is closer to the front of the trigger guard. Could the air be coming from that area?
Have you tried shooting the Spyder while plugged in yet?

And on a side note, overcharging your battery isn't good either. There's a way to calculate the time you should charge your battery by looking that your batteries mAh and the mAh that your charger puts out or something like that.
If your battery is brand new though, it's recommended to charge longer than if it has been broken in
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Old January 7th, 2012, 09:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The Electra does not have that, it's just a plug in the hole held in place but a bolt on the regulator. I have not I'll check it in the am to see if it functions while plugged in
And I'm sure it's from thefront as the only time I feel it is when my hand gripping the front and over the plug
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Old January 8th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Could it be that you're feeling the air coming from the barrel?
Does your barrel have an oring on it?

In any case, if you only feel that air when you shoot, and not all the time, then I wouldn't consider that a leak
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Old January 8th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Barrel has an o ring and it's only when it shoots so I'm not too worried just wanted to throw everything I knew out there to diagnose. I charged it another 8 hrs and the first 100 shots were perfect then bam started acting up again every other shot wouldn't catch
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Old January 8th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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is the battery actually new? rechargeables do lose capacity over time
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Old January 8th, 2012, 02:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ya im thinking its the battery, test it with a brand new name brand 9v and if that works then id say pick up a new battery
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Old January 8th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Will do I have 2 spyder 9.6volts are they any good? I'll pick up an energize e2 on my way out next time and test it.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Any 9.6v battery is fine, but we can't tell you if they're still usable
If they're over a year or two old, it maybe time to get a new 9.6v battery
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Old January 8th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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a volt meter would handy to have, it'll tell you if the battery is good or not.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Lol I'm an idiot I have a million flukes laying around and that never crossed my mind....
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Old January 8th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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shoot send me one of them. flukes are badass
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Old January 13th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Ok so i tested both batteries, they are a hair over 10.5 volts right now but still nothing. I can walk the trigger and sometimes itll go and sometimes it wont it just clicks. Looking at it the solenoid goes up just not all the way every time. I picked up an energizer advanced lithium battery to test something different then the spyder 9 volts. Both spyders are brand new as the gun is still new. Im going to contact kingmann im guessing its the gun now. Ive tried multiple batteries rechecked all the connections nothing works and im just trying to get it working now to sell it and not have waster the money..
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whats a fluke?
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Old January 14th, 2012, 04:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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it's a top brand multi-meter. some of them can cost up to $400
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Old April 15th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Replace the capacitor on the board. It should be a jackson 6800uF,16v unit. I got 2 panasonic replacements from Ebay for $7 shipped...
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Old April 15th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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thread was back in january, pretty sure he has had it fixed since then
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Old April 15th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #20 (permalink)
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yes but..
7 years later i finally am finding out that all those people I told this to had success
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I know it's not a new thread, but with the amount of these that get posted, this is very rarely something that gets mentioned compared to how often this is the fix. Maybe, just maybe, this will help someone that actually uses the search button.

PLUS, this is the actual fix instead of all the threads that have the nickle-shim band-aid fix.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 01:09 AM   #22 (permalink)
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For the recent ones I've seen, I've suggested replacing the capacitor
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Old April 16th, 2012, 01:22 AM   #23 (permalink)
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its pretty rare that the capacitors goes out on these anyway, its kinda an end of the line thing rather than a first try fix, telling someone to replace the capacitor before trying everything else is like telling someone with a car question to replace the pistons before trying the fuel filter

that and nobody uses the search button
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