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Old October 17th, 2012, 07:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New gun missing item?

Hey guys,

I just bought the spyder sonix starter set thing with the cheap mask, tank, and gun.

It's pretty much this.

Well, i bought it on ebay and the guy said he just fired it ~10 times to see if it worked, and threw everything back in the box.

My question is that the kit was missing the allen wrench that allows me to tighten the clamping feedneck (it's just an M4 shcs). Has anyone else bought this? Did it come with that wrench? It's annoying that i am going to have to buy one seperately for something i feel should've been included.

tl:dr Missing the clamping feedneck wrench on my spyder sonix '09 upon purchase, was yours?
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Old October 17th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Tools for the Home & Auto 3 Piece Folding Hex Key Set at Blain's Farm & Fleet


Best $20 I've spent for on-field repair. They're heavy enough that the one matching my marker stays in my pocket - ball-ended, and they'll transition into your toolbox if you ever decide to put paintball on the sidelines. Kit includes metric, SAE, and torx...or you can get the SAE & metric independently for ...I think $9/ea.


Beyond that - for more involved repairs, get yourself a nice set of loose ball-enders. They should be between $10/$15 a set... they'll be useful in practical life applications, and you run a lower risk of stripping screws.


Outside of Planet Eclipse - I've found most included allen keys to be inexpensively made, straight ended, and ...well... short. Short enough to not be able to get a mechanical advantage on red/blue loc tite. I love me some long allen wrenches
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Old October 17th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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any paintball player owns a nice set of metric and standard size allen keys. ball ends are AMAZING.

I bought a spyder about 10 years ago, so i can't remember what came with it
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Old October 17th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Beyond that - for more involved repairs, get yourself a nice set of loose ball-enders. They should be between $10/$15 a set... they'll be useful in practical life applications, and you run a lower risk of stripping screws.
Thanks! I'll just have to pick up a small pair. I have a set that i use for housework/car junk but nothing small and universal like that.

My budget only allows for $50/month, so i have to pick up things slooooowly. Thought this set would get me started nicely at only $45
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Old October 17th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if you're interested - for size (of the folding ones) I can take pics tonight against a 14 inch barrel, a quarter...and....err...some other common item, to show you just how small these things are, and how they can fit in your pocket just below your microfiber. Not sure what this will do for you - but I own and swear by them.

As far as the "slowly" thing goes - don't be in ANY rush. Most crap you can buy - can be made or discovered for 1/4 to 1/2 the cost.


Case in point with the headbands I make for myself and my buddies...

1.5 yards of fabric - $9.
Old bath towel - asset registered to other purpose. $0 cost, unlimited value
Black thread - not much...pays for its self within first bandana.


sooo.. $9 + time... or $25 for something that comes in a plastic bag? To me... that's "paint money" at the cost of 45 minutes of drinking time.. .which saves me 30-60 minutes I need to spend running to burn the calories I earned drinking the 4-6 beers... less the frustration Scotch required to keep me calm while making these things.....


eah, I end up money ahead .

I digress - You'll find out exactly what is necessity and what's flair when you ball with a budget. Don't rush ANY purchase - as most of it will just end in the bottom of a gear bag, or broken within the next 5-10 years.

....I have 3 FatBoys...a pull thru...a straight shot... and a tube of Dow33 that I'm still using from my first new marker. outside that... wow...I hate to think of all that money..
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Old October 17th, 2012, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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any paintball player owns a nice set of metric and standard size allen keys. ball ends are AMAZING.
Ball ends are great! Don't put too much torque on them though. I managed to break one off in a screw on the grips of one of my Quests, and I haven't been able to get it out...
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Old October 17th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Tools for the Home & Auto 3 Piece Folding Hex Key Set at Blain's Farm & Fleet


Best $20 I've spent for on-field repair. They're heavy enough that the one matching my marker stays in my pocket - ball-ended, and they'll transition into your toolbox if you ever decide to put paintball on the sidelines. Kit includes metric, SAE, and torx...or you can get the SAE & metric independently for ...I think $9/ea.


Beyond that - for more involved repairs, get yourself a nice set of loose ball-enders. They should be between $10/$15 a set... they'll be useful in practical life applications, and you run a lower risk of stripping screws.


Outside of Planet Eclipse - I've found most included allen keys to be inexpensively made, straight ended, and ...well... short. Short enough to not be able to get a mechanical advantage on red/blue loc tite. I love me some long allen wrenches
yeah. folding sets are nice but they're hard to access odd spots, like grip frame screws
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Old October 17th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't like the folding sets at all. I prefer the sets where i can pull the entire thing out and manipulate it in whatever way i wish.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The long "T" handle wrenches are amazing!
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Old October 17th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't like the folding sets at all. I prefer the sets where i can pull the entire thing out and manipulate it in whatever way i wish.
Oh Martix, what have we told you about 'pulling it out and manipulating it'?

ON subject, I bought one of those cheap ring sets from Wal-Mart to throw in my gear bag (sans the rings, of course) and have a nice set for at home when I'm really tearing stuff apart. As noted above, a good hex set is extremely useful to have anyways, so I'd suggest buying the cheapest set you can for now just to get started and save up for a nicer set later.
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Old October 18th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The folding set I carry is primarily just to have something on the field so I can adjust velocity if the paint swelled and I find I'm shooting hotter than usual... if my ASA wiggled loose..etc. Honestly - I hate folding sets myself, but I see value in carrying an "all-in-one" tool with some weight to it (as to not lose it as easily). Because I'm not always playing airball, it sucks waiting for a game, walking to the gathering spot, waiting for the ref to take you to the field, getting to the field, being chrono'd, and not being able to turn up/down or tighten down something that failed the wiggle-test.


I'd hate to take a T-handle to the leg in a slide...eesh.

There really is no replacement for a set of extra-long ball-enders while working on a marker.
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Ewww, I couldn't imagine carrying tools around with me while I'm playing...
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Old October 18th, 2012, 09:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Honestly - because it folds in, and paintball pants are as thick and heavy as they are (if you buy ones valued higher than a pair of Adidas track pants)...I don't feel it. The wrench is rounded, (for the most part) thin, and light weight.


The only time I really would notice it, is if I were to slide and my man-parts weren't locked down.. or if I were duck-walking for a prolonged period of time. Otherwise...eah...suppose I just got used to it.
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any paintball player owns a nice set of metric and standard size allen keys. ball ends are AMAZING.
i say 2 sets, the one you loose at the field will be the one you absolutely need, so even if the second set is a cheap set, i say bring 2 just in case
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i say 2 sets, the one you loose at the field will be the one you absolutely need, so even if the second set is a cheap set, i say bring 2 just in case
That's why you take friends with you, so if you forget yours, you can bum off them
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That's why I pack all the tools....so I'm certain I have all I need - and I don't depend on friends...

set of nice wrenches - check.
Set of pocket folding wrenches - check
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After a while I've accrued so much stuff that I always have back ups of everything. I think I need to get something that is a little bit more efficient than a cardboard box for my tools...
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Old October 21st, 2012, 01:01 PM   #18 (permalink)
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That's why you take friends with you, so if you forget yours, you can bum off them
that assumes your friends come prepared....not something that has worked out all that well for me.

iv been out multiple times when people did not even bother to check the battery in their marker before leaving that morning, if they do not check over their gear and for sure do not bring a spare battery, whats the chances that they brought wrenches?
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I have good friends then. we're always bumming tools and batteries off eachother.
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I have good friends then. we're always bumming tools and batteries off eachother.
I'm in the same boat. If not, I can take out a loan and buy some from the shop.
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