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Old January 8th, 2005, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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'Noid Mod

Here's a mod that will give you more shots off one battery charge and will quiet down the "clicking" sound of your Electric Spyder.

Now the noid is the small metal thing above your board, when your gun is on and you click the trigger this noid will quickely pop once which makes the sound.

Now get some change, like dimes, nickels, quarters, and pennys. You won't need a lot, just 1-3 of each. Place a nickel in between your noid, then cock your gun. If it stays cocked your good, if not then you need something smaller. Just try out different combinations

Try useing 2 pennies or 2 dimes, maybe even 1 dime or 1 penny. Once your gun will stay cocked while its in there then turn your gun on, and walk your trigger.

Now it's a bit more quieter and it's going to save you some battery power because your noid doesn't have to go a far distance anymore, now its closer. If you want to reverse this mod then all you have to do is tilt your gun sideways, and walk the trigger and it will slowely fall out. Just make sure your trigger cover is off so it can fall out.

New Notice - If your marker is burping with this mod then take the shim out and see if that was the problem, if in case it was and your marker does not burp anymore then keep the coin out or try something thinner. This mod will help if your marker has problems tripping the sear.


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Old January 8th, 2005, 05:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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you sure that will work? will it actually trip the sear properly?
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Old January 8th, 2005, 05:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Yes, it does work. I guess it trips the sear just enough that its working. Just make sure you have your trigger grip on so it doesn't fall out of anything.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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this is also great if for some reason your 'noid decided to conk out on you like it did for me. I gotta replace it soon though cuz without a fully juiced battery it doesn't trip the sear.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 04:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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i used a nickle, seems to be working, but having gassed it up yet, but ut stays cocked, so i guess thats good
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Old January 10th, 2005, 08:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, mine needed a nickle too. Once you gas it you, it'll sound so nice and neat.
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Old January 10th, 2005, 09:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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i used a nickle, seems to be working
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Old January 11th, 2005, 05:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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ok how can you tell if your noid is going out, I was told by a field ref I trust that he thinks it is going out. IT keeps getting louder and louder till the dang thing literally sounds like a shotgun I have not had any shootdown or performance problems but the noise is a bit annoying. How much do these little cheap things run? and any idea's where to pick one up?
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Old January 11th, 2005, 06:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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^ Wow that sounds freaky ive never even heard of that happening.
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Old January 11th, 2005, 07:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Radioshack.
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Old January 11th, 2005, 10:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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does anyone have a picture of this?
that we could all see
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Old January 12th, 2005, 06:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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It's not that hard, just drop a nickle there. Nothing bad will happen to your gun. Like I said, I just got new Dye Grips and I don't feel like taking em off.
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Old January 12th, 2005, 10:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My noid doesnt' work unless i have full battery power, it will snap forward, but not powerfull enough to trip my sear. I would assume that a very loud clicking noise may tell you ti's going out. Or the ref coudl have no idea what he's talking about.

I'm not sure where to get a new 'noid. but they are a very simple thing, if you are elactrically inclined, you may be able to open it up, wrap new wires and hope it works. otherwise, check radioshack or call kingman(but kingman is probalyl gonna rip you off with some ridicluos price.)
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Old January 12th, 2005, 10:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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That more then likely isn't going to effect the number of shots. Your solenoid receives the same amount of current regardless of where the pin is located inside. The extra slack probably gives it a little bit of extra kick since it has more time to accelerate in case the seer has a deathgrip on the striker notch due to excessive mainspring or seerspring strength or wear to the striker where the seer notch hits it.
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Old January 13th, 2005, 02:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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The mod will help a ton on battery life, but only if you have an aftermarket board (T-Board) that allows you to adjust solenoid dwell time. Less sear travel = less dwell time = less current used per shot = more shots per charge. I should have elaborated a bit better.
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Old January 13th, 2005, 03:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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since theres no actual dwell on blowbacks, your little chart doesnt work...
But yeah, nice mod if it works, does it hold together if you give your gun a nice shake or two? does it makes wierd sounds (of metal rubbing) when you shoot?
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Old January 13th, 2005, 07:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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No wierd sounds and yes the grips do hold it well. Here's Pics:



You can see the nickle in there, next to it is my "turbo" mod.
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since theres no actual dwell on blowbacks, your little chart doesnt work...
But yeah, nice mod if it works, does it hold together if you give your gun a nice shake or two? does it makes wierd sounds (of metal rubbing) when you shoot?
Ummm... there's dwell.
First, you have solenoid dwell, which controls how long the sear is held down (and how much electricity is used). Then, you have valve dwell, which is adjusted using different spring combinations.
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Old January 15th, 2005, 01:44 PM   #19 (permalink)
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lol, sounds like a expencive mod..
"you have valve dwell, which is adjusted using different spring combinations."
you can also adjust that with a longer/shorter valve pin.
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Old January 15th, 2005, 02:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
 
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But the main objective of this mod is to quiet down your e-marker without paying like $5 for a spring kit.
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Ummm... there's dwell.
First, you have solenoid dwell, which controls how long the sear is held down (and how much electricity is used). Then, you have valve dwell, which is adjusted using different spring combinations.
thats not what dwell is... dwell is how long the valve stays open, and the noid on blowbacks does not change it. also how long the sear stays down? umm.. the sear goes down ones for every time the bolt goes forward and back.. whats the point of having the sear stay down longer?
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But the main objective of this mod is to quiet down your e-marker without paying like $5 for a spring kit.
the main springs on blowbacks are used to fine tune your valocity to what ever you want, if your running 250fps, it doesnt matter which spring you use your marker wont be any quieter.
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Old January 15th, 2005, 03:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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yes it will make it quieter, because you dont have as much lbs of spring slamming agenst the valve pin and the pin infront of the valve(the one that keeps the stricker from fowling up the valve) plus it takes less air to blow back the spring. And we all know the less air you are useing the quieter it is.
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yes it will make it quieter, because you dont have as much lbs of spring slamming agenst the valve pin and the pin infront of the valve(the one that keeps the stricker from fowling up the valve) plus it takes less air to blow back the spring. And we all know the less air you are useing the quieter it is.
wrong. cause are you arent regulating the air, your fine tunning the valocity.
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Old January 15th, 2005, 07:04 PM   #25 (permalink)
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have you ever made a valve pin? I have, and the one I made is longer. I put new springs in it, both springs are the softest I could finde. I did a experamint and put a stronger main spring in it and the velosity dident change.
Oh you mean we dont get a regulater in this picture?
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