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Old March 7th, 2005, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Bush's new cut plan...maybe?

Stole from the nation...so what?

Some of the Cuts Proposed in the President’s Budget

Food Stamps are cut $1.1 billion over 10 years. An estimated 200,000 – 300,000 people will lose Food
Stamps as a result of this cut.

WIC would be cut $658 million from FY 2006 - FY 2010 – if achieved by reducing the number participating,
this would mean 660,000 fewer babies, young children, and pregnant women receiving WIC assistance.

Medicaid is cut $45 billion over 10 years. In the fifth year of these cuts, the funds lost to states would be
enough to provide health coverage to 1.8 million children or 345,000 people over 65 nationwide.

By FY 2009, 300,000 fewer children will receive Child Care assistance than today. This is in addition to the
loss of 200,000 child care placements that has occurred since 2003. Federal child care funding has stayed
the same for the last three years, and would remain unchanged through FY 2010 in the President’s
proposal. Each year, inflation shrinks the value of the child care funds.

The budget cuts the number of children served by Head Start by 25,000 in FY 2006 and by 118,000 by
2010. The budget calls for demonstrations in a number of states to transfer the authority to run Head Start
away from local programs and to the state.

Elementary Education (No Child Left Behind) is underfunded by at least $12 billion in FY 2006. While
these education funds rise 3 percent after inflation over the previous year, they fall short of the amount
promised to school districts by the legislation. (The cumulative shortfall since the legislation passed is
almost $40 billion.)

Special Education programs for children with disabilities would be cut 18 percent in 2010, taking inflation
into account. Between FY 2006- FY 2010, the cuts would total nearly $7.6 billion.

The budget cuts $920 million from high school and vocational programs. The President’s budget
highlights a $1.5 billion high school initiative, which includes $250 million for expanding No Child Left
Behind-type testing to high school. The remaining $1.25 billion for high school programs is what is left after
eliminating $2.17 billion in vocational and technical education, college-readiness and similar programs.

Literacy, basic education and English as a Second Language services would be cut by at least twothirds
in FY 2006. At least 470,000 people would lose access to these services.

Job Training and Employment Services is cut by nearly $281 million from various job training programs, a
4 percent cut from current funding. The budget eliminates programs for migrant and seasonal farmworkers
and youthful offenders.

Community and Economic Development is cut by nearly $2 billion. These programs provide housing,
transportation, and other economic development assistance for low-income communities. The budget
eliminates $5.7 billion in 18 such programs, replacing them with a new $3.7 billion block grant.

The budget cuts LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program) by $182 million (down from
nearly $2.2 billion in FY 2005). The Administration projects that 4.5 million low-income households will
receive energy assistance in FY 2006.

The Administration again proposes a block grant for foster care, prevention, case management, and other
child welfare services. A block grant would end the 40-year federal guarantee of financial support for foster
placements for abused or neglected children. States opting for block-granted funding may receive an
increase in the first year, but over 5 years overall funding is the same as under current law, meaning that
states receiving more in the first year would receive less in future years, even if the number of abused or
neglected children rises. Other child welfare programs are level-funded, despite the fact that about 370,000
abused or neglected children now receive no services. Providing them with home visiting services would
cost about $1.1 billion a year over current funding levels.

The budget proposes to restrict federal outlays for Section 8 rental vouchers by ending the current
practice of providing local housing authorities with the funds necessary to support a specified number of
rental vouchers. Instead, the housing authorities would receive a pot of funds and would be allowed to
adopt restrictive policies such as time limits or higher tenant payments if the funding were inadequate to
cover rising rents. In 2010, 370,000 fewer families would receive rental vouchers than in 2005

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Old March 7th, 2005, 08:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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if a democrat was in office and made the same cut, only the positives of it would be looked at, but since its a republican in office, lets look at all the negatives of a budget cut (which can never be good but are sometimes necessary)
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idk whether to say yes or no to that comment...hmmmmmmm

ill say yes for fun
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if a democrat was in office and made the same cut, only the positives of it would be looked at, but since its a republican in office, lets look at all the negatives of a budget cut (which can never be good but are sometimes necessary)
if a democrat was in office, the economy wouldnt be this bad. the democrats and republicans have different (opposite) economic philosophies, democrats wouldn't have never let it all fall this hard.
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if a democrat was in office and made the same cut, only the positives of it would be looked at, but since its a republican in office, lets look at all the negatives of a budget cut (which can never be good but are sometimes necessary)
I dunno if these are necessary, I mean its only basic education right? And keeping children healthy and off the streets, thats way too much to ask.
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if gore was elected in 2000, this country would have been blown off the face of the earth by now by terrorists

so yeah, i guess you're right, we wouldnt have any debt
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i take it that the article was more or less against bush? tl:dr. anyway, repub>democrat(dumbacrat as we call it...) damn liberials want to turn this country into a shambles.
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Old March 7th, 2005, 08:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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not really owned...

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if gore was elected in 2000, this country would have been blown off the face of the earth by now by terrorists

so yeah, i guess you're right, we wouldnt have any debt
I guess your 3D glasses help you see the future too. Because obviously you can predict the future a lot better than the rest of pbf.
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Old March 7th, 2005, 08:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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obviously you know nothing about how soft gore is on foreign policy, or how terrorists would have loved to have him in office

there would have been more attacks after 9/11 had gore been in office
if you cant realize that, you have the democrat stick too far up...
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stop flaming, you idiots. I thought you could have an intelligent debate. Both have their perks and downfalls....some downfalls are nessarcy for a greater future. do you believe in stealing? I don't, thats why i prefere someone else in office, instead of a democrat. They just steal from the rich cause they can afford it, and give it to the poor which don't deserve it. We live in a captialist society, excersise that right. Anyone can get out of a hell hole. Its called education. welfare should be an abanboned policy, and so should income tax.

Maybe I'm harsh, but if thats what it takes to get it through people's heads not to throw their lives away, being "poor" will be nothing more than a normal cycle. The person who recieves the short end of the stick.

no it wasn't posted for it to be for or against bush, i just thought another opinion would be worth something.
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I'm shaking my head at you NYY which I don't usually do... disappointed...

in any case, for us California lovers...

... Bush's cuts definatly will hurt the california economy. Bush is cutting funding of an agricultural subsidy program that will disproportionatly hurt california's economy because California grows rice and cotton. On top of that, the criminal mother****ers at WTO have declared the farm subsidys the US has as undermining free trade, but I assume Bush won't mind to much cause he never has liked "Commiefornia." Hence his refusal to get involved in Californias energy crisis a few years back. (Which my republican father blames more on Bush anyways because not only did Bush refuse to help, but Texas companys made money by kicking Commiefornians while we were down, pinche culeros)

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\They just steal from the rich cause they can afford it, and give it to the poor which don't deserve it.

lmao.. when you're poor and don't deserve anything I'm gonna laugh my ****in ass off again you ill ****** =)
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Old March 7th, 2005, 08:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i cant support getting rid of the income tax
a spending tax seems a little to unstable IMO, people always have to work, but people dont always have to spend


for those of you who want to flame me hardcore but wont because im a mod, i see how you can hate me for my opinion. But i still think cuts are necessary. I sure as hell DONT agree with ALL of the cuts. If i did, then you have every right to flame me. But we have to dig ourselves out of our debt now, or it will only get deeper and deeper. And as much as i hate to say it, i think this is the only way possible. Will some people suffer from this? of coarse, will this help create a smaller defecit and eventually bring our economy up? yes, and that is what we have to work towards.
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being supported by welfare is one thing
living off of it is another

i dont think it should be abandonded, but it could deff go thru some reform
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Income tax was suppose to be only to pay off the WWII debate as far as i know..

PBNewbie, it sounds harsh as heck. People could very well end up on the street. But once the poor stop buying 24K gold rims, I'll have a dicussion one weither welfare is actually worth keeping or not. SS is another one that shouldn't be around. Invest, people, its worthwhile.
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Income tax was suppose to be only to pay off the WWII debate as far as i know..
How do you expect Bush to fund his MASSIVE! 510 Billion dollar defense budget without the income tax?
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greenspan wants to replace the income tax with some kind of different spending tax
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Phase out other needless taxes......duh. It'd save us billions.
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You can't have a big goverment like the Bush Administration and not have taxes, plain and simple.
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Never said have no taxes, i said phase out worthless ones. Ones that we are spending on worthless crap. Like SS.
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Our country as a whole IS getting weaker in the global economy.. face it.. our dollar use to be = or > than the euro, now trade deficet speaking is considerabley weaker. Products from the US are also being boycotted because of our husky relationship with 90% of the countries who we need to do business with. Sending Condi over for a few days isn't goign to mend the wounds and differences between the US and Europe, what they need is to see some action, and until then we will continue to suffer. I don't expect to be able to solve politics, people much smarter than me can't think of a definite solution to please all parties...
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Our country as a whole IS getting weaker in the global economy.. face it.. our dollar use to be = or > than the euro, now trade deficet speaking is considerabley weaker. Products from the US are also being boycotted because of our husky relationship with 90% of the countries who we need to do business with. Sending Condi over for a few days isn't goign to mend the wounds and differences between the US and Europe, what they need is to see some action, and until then we will continue to suffer. I don't expect to be able to solve politics, people much smarter than me can't think of a definite solution to please all parties...
As long as neoliberalism remains prevelant in the US government, I don't expect social welfare to get better anytime soon.

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Never said have no taxes, i said phase out worthless ones. Ones that we are spending on worthless crap. Like SS.
oh christ... I'm stepping aside now... time to make pointless comments
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you cant please any party, so you please what will get done fastest by congress
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