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Old August 12th, 2005, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok, so my friend is telling me right now that without jackie robinson, the united states would still be segregated..any arguments i should point out to him, ive already brought up rosa parks to which he said sarcastically "some lady in a bus is going to end segregation"...help me with some arguments
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Old August 12th, 2005, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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start out by telling him he's stupid


does he honestly think that one black baseball player is responsible to abolishing jim crowe laws?

hit him over the head with something hard
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Old August 12th, 2005, 09:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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it's called a "movement" not "what 1 dude did"
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Old August 12th, 2005, 09:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i did call him dumb, then he changed and said he meant desegregation in baseball

also, is baseball the official past time of the united states? ive heard some say it is and others say it isnt, according to wikipedia it isnt official. im confused
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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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saying one person is responsible for the end of segregation is a slap in the face to the entire movement
it was a collective effort of many great people
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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well put, NYY.


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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well baseball obviously. but as a civil rights leader, no.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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If Jackie Robinson didn't exist another black baseball player would have stepped up to the plate (no pun intended).

There was a black baseball league. There were lots of black baseball players. Jackie Robinson was just the first. if he didn't exist, someone else would be the first.

The civil rights movement is the joint work of thousands of people. Not just one baseball player. That "lady on a bus" did more for the movement that Jackie did (IMO).

Because of what went on with Rosa Parks, there was a Bus Boycott. Guess who was one of the leaders of that Boycott? MLK Jr. Alot of his clout in the civil rights world came from his leadership abilities shown in that boycott.

Jackie Robinson was more of an inspirational symbol. And although that does alot, no one man is responsible for the work of an entire movement.

If anyone says otherwise (that one man is responsible for the work of an entire movement) he/she is a dity liar.

Your friend is a bilthering idiot.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 10:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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jackie robinson was involved with baseball, not desegregation of blacks. he probably didnt even expect something that large of a movement to even happen
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Exactly. Which is one more reason that his friend is a blithering idiot.
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