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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BLACK not African-American. WHITE not light-skinned

So I'm reading a wikipedia article about a certain derrogitory term for black people (use your imagination and search for it).

I noticed that the word "light-skinned" is used throughout the article. What the hell? Its white. Using euphamisms is hiding what you are. I'm white. The color of my skin is white compared to a black person. Black people are black. Their skin color is black compared to that of white people.

Its the way we are. Dont hide from it. This politically correct BS is just hiding from the truth. Its reality. You can't escape from it no matter how many terms you create.

Take a black person. Lets say his name is John. John was born in Boston, Massachusetts, just like his father, and his grandfather. Neither John, nor anybody in the last 2 generations of his bloodline has stepped on African soil. When john fills out anything reguarding his ethnicity, he is to write "African-American" as the description. But he has never been to africa. Nor has his father, or his grandfather.

John is a ****ing black American. I am a white American. Its the way things are.

Why are we so obcessed with classifying people, and then we get upset about who we call what.

They took Speedy Gozales off the air because it was "offensive to mexicans". Thousands of protesters wanted Speedy back on the air. Soem of them were mexican. Speedy Gozales is a part of our history, and we're trying to impose modern standards on it. Its funny.

I'm appaled.
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So I'm reading a wikipedia article about a certain derrogitory term for black people (use your imagination and search for it).

I noticed that the word "light-skinned" is used throughout the article. What the hell? Its white. Using euphamisms is hiding what you are. I'm white. The color of my skin is white compared to a black person. Black people are black. Their skin color is black compared to that of white people.

Its the way we are. Dont hide from it. This politically correct BS is just hiding from the truth. Its reality. You can't escape from it no matter how many terms you create.

Take a black person. Lets say his name is John. John was born in Boston, Massachusetts, just like his father, and his grandfather. Neither John, nor anybody in the last 2 generations of his bloodline has stepped on African soil. When john fills out anything reguarding his ethnicity, he is to write "African-American" as the description. But he has never been to africa. Nor has his father, or his grandfather.

John is a ****ing black American. I am a white American. Its the way things are.

Why are we so obcessed with classifying people, and then we get upset about who we call what.

They took Speedy Gozales off the air because it was "offensive to mexicans". Thousands of protesters wanted Speedy back on the air. Soem of them were mexican. Speedy Gozales is a part of our history, and we're trying to impose modern standards on it. Its funny.

I'm appaled.


you can be appaled. Wikipedia didn't write that article, somebody submitted it.

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All in all though, whats the big deal?
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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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America is going to hell in a handbasket, and this is just one of many examples why.

Assuming I do indeed become rich, I'm buying a private island and staying the hell away from this declining ****-hole.

I love America, but the country needs some dire changes before it becomes permanently ****ed up.

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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know someone else wrote the article.

What REALLY REALLY pisses me off is that people think its okay to call peopel blacks, but white people must be called light-skinned. Adversely, the same thing goes for blacks being referred to as African-American, while whites are simply whites.

Equal Rights, not Special Rights.

I watched an episode of The Boondocks the other day for the first time. It was an alternate history where Martin Luther King comes back from a coma.

He goes to give a speech on a common, and theres people running around going "Yea ***** yeaaa!" and white people are fighting black people, and gunshots are fired into the air in excitement.

What would MLK think of us if he came back today. Did he really die for nothing? All his efforts meant nothing? Get rid of racism. We're all one human family. Equal rights, not special treatment.

Its teh whole reverse racism thing that gets me too... Affirmative Action...

NAACP is okay, but if I made an organization for the advancement of white people, it would be racist.

Asian Culture Club at my school is okay, but if I made a white culture club, it would be racist.

Its a bunch of middle class whites who are afraid of offending blacks. Treat them like you'd treat any other person. Whether that be treating everyone like trash, or treating everyone like your brother. Just be a little more consistant, its confusing out youth.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I know someone else wrote the article.

What REALLY REALLY pisses me off is that people think its okay to call peopel blacks, but white people must be called light-skinned. Adversely, the same thing goes for blacks being referred to as African-American, while whites are simply whites.

Equal Rights, not Special Rights.

I watched an episode of The Boondocks the other day for the first time. It was an alternate history where Martin Luther King comes back from a coma.

He goes to give a speech on a common, and theres people running around going "Yea ***** yeaaa!" and white people are fighting black people, and gunshots are fired into the air in excitement.

What would MLK think of us if he came back today. Did he really die for nothing? All his efforts meant nothing? Get rid of racism. We're all one human family. Equal rights, not special treatment.

Its teh whole reverse racism thing that gets me too... Affirmative Action...

NAACP is okay, but if I made an organization for the advancement of white people, it would be racist.

Asian Culture Club at my school is okay, but if I made a white culture club, it would be racist.

Its a bunch of middle class whites who are afraid of offending blacks. Treat them like you'd treat any other person. Whether that be treating everyone like trash, or treating everyone like your brother. Just be a little more consistant, its confusing out youth.


you have a problem with not the terms they use but the treatment of others and yourself.


I agree with you there.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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since the civil war, America has been ****ing up. EVery new person would enter the country got killed. Its fustrating. Now we try to cover our tracks by being too "polite" i guess you could say. We are being too anal, and things are getting complicated. Im sure that black people find it annoying to have to be called "African Americans". In a way its still discriminating. I say everyone just say **** it and not get fancy with this stuff. Black people, Indians, Mexicans, etc. Not "African-Americans, Native-Americans, and Mexican-Americans". Thank God they have to diddy it up by putting "American" at the end, becuase I would have no clue that mexicans where in the country! Of course they are american, they are in america! Its not like you would say "Oh, Hello 5 foot 11 inches tall white male with brown hair and glasses!"...you would say "Hello James".
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im european-american idk what you guys are talking about
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Old April 18th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I watched an episode of The Boondocks the other day for the first time. It was an alternate history where Martin Luther King comes back from a coma.
that episode was hilarious

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Old April 18th, 2006, 03:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Actually Sam, I can see the Asian Culture thing, but white culture would be far too general, because you'd have to have Europe's many cultures included as well as the general American culture.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 03:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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light skinned does not refer to white people, it refers to mutants

aka half and half
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Old April 18th, 2006, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Asia is much bigger then europe, and encompasses just as many cultures. Go and compare that of the japanese and chinese. You'll notice MANY differences.
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Old April 18th, 2006, 03:48 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Asia is much bigger then europe, and encompasses just as many cultures. Go and compare that of the japanese and chinese. You'll notice MANY differences.
Or compare chinese to arabian to indian people. All of them are Asian. But even "asian" I don't have a problem with because I'd rather say asian than try and guess someone's nationality. But black people in America aren't African American unless they immigrated from Africa and are now Americans. That's why we should call blacks...blacks. Same goes for white people.
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since the civil war, America has been ****ing up. EVery new person would enter the country got killed. Its fustrating. Now we try to cover our tracks by being too "polite" i guess you could say. We are being too anal, and things are getting complicated. Im sure that black people find it annoying to have to be called "African Americans". In a way its still discriminating. I say everyone just say **** it and not get fancy with this stuff. Black people, Indians, Mexicans, etc. Not "African-Americans, Native-Americans, and Mexican-Americans". Thank God they have to diddy it up by putting "American" at the end, becuase I would have no clue that mexicans where in the country! Of course they are american, they are in america! Its not like you would say "Oh, Hello 5 foot 11 inches tall white male with brown hair and glasses!"...you would say "Hello James".
I think the whole -american thing should only apply with africans, because most of them and their parents/grandparents Have never been to africa. On the other side, most mexicans have parents or grandparents who were born and lived in mexico and came to the US, legally or not. If their baby was born on american soil, then it is a mexican american.

ANd calling native americans indians is just wrong. They are not from india. NOr are any of their ancestors (to our knowledge). They deserve to be called native-americans, because their bloodline will always trace back to america, and calling them native americans is just correct. Indians is completely wrong. We all know why we call them indians (cuz c. columbus thought he was in india) and it has just become natural to call them indians, and its just incorrect all together.

Yes, they're black, we're white.
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Surveys have shown that people of Native American background dont mind the name Indian, or American Indian.

Think about the name America. Its Italian. Amerigo Vespucci. Therefore, its WRONG and unnatural and incorrect and any of the other adjectives you used.
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Personally I prefer to be called a "Melanin Impaired American", but I go by white too.



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Surveys have shown that people of Native American background dont mind the name Indian, or American Indian.

Think about the name America. Its Italian. Amerigo Vespucci. Therefore, its WRONG and unnatural and incorrect and any of the other adjectives you used.
Then they are some very forgiving people..us taking their land, calling them by the wrong names..and theyre okay with that..man i need to make some native american friends
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Then they are some very forgiving people..us taking their land, calling them by the wrong names..and theyre okay with that..man i need to make some native american friends
That's because there's like five of them left and they're too old to care anymore.

Technically, they should be called Asian Americans though since their ancestors trace back to Asia, but apparently we decided on a cut-off date that seperates them.



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Not only did we come here, and take their lands, they were read a proclamation in spanish that said if they accepted god, and the authority of the pope, they would make peace and trade with them, but if they did not accept god and the pope, they would make war- they would rape their children, make their wives slaves, slaughter their boys, and kill their men. And they did.

The US Government had a large institution that took NAtive American boys off the reservation, and put them into military-like camps. If they mentioned their native culture, they were beaten. If they spoke their native tongue, they were beated. They beat the Native American out of them.

We say its nice that they have reservations, but look at what we've done. Europeans DESTROYED a culture.

Let me tell you something, NAtive Americans had one of th ebest civilizations on the planet. While we were fighting wars for 10,000 years, they were living off the land. Sure- they did have their rivalry and their wars, but there was an air of respect in their culture.
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That's because there's like five of them left and they're too old to care anymore.

Technically, they should be called Asian Americans though since their ancestors trace back to Asia, but apparently we decided on a cut-off date that seperates them.
Then technically all humans are Monkey-derived Africans. Shall we classify ourselves more?
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its sad that men women and children are being murdered and bombed in the world, and yet people, ie: you guys, care more about PC terms.
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Okay. and what about Africans who come to America and are white? There are lots of whites in Africa, so if they move here, can we call them African-Americans? I think it would be hilarious.
Here's a funny story. I was watching Smallville. It was the episode with Cyborg. He is a black kid who was injured and rebuilt with cybernetic parts. Lana runs into Cyborg with her car and it doesn't hurt him. So later she's trying to describe Cyborg, to Clark. She says all these things about him, but never mentions that he is black. Now in real life, don't you think that would be one of the first things mentioned? It would not be racist to say he is black, because he is. It's a characteristic so impossible to miss that it has to be included in a description. yet they leave it out and avoid the risk of offending. What a load.
What our forefathers did the to the people that lived here before us and to the people taken from Africa, was wrong. But I had no part in it. So I don't think people should treat me a certain way because I'm white and in return I won't treat them a certain way because they are black or any other skin tone.
What I will ask is that they take part in our society in a constructive way. And I'll ask that of anybody, of any race, creed , religion. Equal, not special. Friggin' A.

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its sad that men women and children are being murdered and bombed in the world, and yet people, ie: you guys, care more about PC terms.
It's not that I care more about PC terms, but everything has to be discussed. Would you have us only discuss bombings and murders?
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its sad that men women and children are being murdered and bombed in the world, and yet people, ie: you guys, care more about PC terms.
the onyl people that care are certain groups of minorities.. and it's not even an issue..

i dont know why people constantly complain about how others complain.. thats just well hypocritical, and annoying to hear all the time
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its sad that men women and children are being murdered and bombed in the world, and yet people, ie: you guys, care more about PC terms.
yes, and there are also people starving to death right now, dying from diseases, and other horrible things. We are discussing this, why? because we can. its a forum, you discuss things.
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It isn't black, its BROWN(according to pbf's colors its sienna, but honestly, if you called someone sienna they woudln't know what you were talking about)


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I can't honestly say that I've ever see a black person before, only browns. (although Kueth Duaney comes awfully close to black). So from now on, as in my town, pbf will call them browns and not blacks.
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