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Old August 26th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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got a wierd car question?

ok i got this mid 80's RX-7 that i got off one of my jobs (theres a thread somewhere) but yeah i want to start messing with it but i dont have a key for it and i dont want to put the money out on a new ignition or having a key made for it so i want to wire up a push button start but i have no clue how

so if someone could kinda help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated
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Old August 26th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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step 1, u need to find a wiring harness,

well, its not as easy as it used to be, cause back in the day all u needed was power to the ignition, and power to the starter, but now u got the fuel pump, computer, butt load of sensors, bad stuff

so, u need to get into the wiring harness, figure out what wires go the the ignition switch, and run them to your own switch.

o wait, im getting ahead of myelf here, does the ignition sitch work at all? does it send power to the stereo or anything? or is it completely dead?
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Old August 26th, 2006, 09:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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idk if it works cause i dont have a key for it.

its not stolen though lol
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ok, well the ignition switch has like 3 switches in it. The switch when u turn it back to ACC, then when u turn the key to ON (which is the same thing as ACC but power is sent to the fuel pump/injectors and other parts of the engine) and of course START.

you'll need 3 switches, idk how many wires would run to each switch, depends on the car. U really need to get a wiring diagram and study it, if u want u could scan ur diagram around the ignition switch area and send it to me, and i'll help u figure it out
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Old August 26th, 2006, 09:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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alright i will pick up a haynes book and i will send you copys of the schematics
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Old August 28th, 2006, 05:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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http://bulldogsecurity.com/New%20Wir...zrx-782-85.htm

ok going by that i could get a toggle switch with a momentary on and hook ignition 1 & 2 and 12v constant and it should start ???

EDIT:

or would i need a seperate toggle and a push button

IGN 1 & 12v on the toggle

IGN 2 & 12v on the push button

???

NOTE:

IGN 2 and the starter have the same wire colors so i am assuming they are the same wire i could be wrong
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the push button for the starter should only have the purpose for turning the starter, therefore should only have one wire (and the ground, duh).

heres what u need.

1. toggle switch, labeled ignition, run the top 4 wires that are on your wiring chart (and a ground) to that.

2. starter button, run your starter wire and a ground wire to that

and you should be in business
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Old August 28th, 2006, 08:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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alright cool thanks man i will be trying this out on wed and i will post up what happens
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Old August 28th, 2006, 09:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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if it works, wanna sell it? lol
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Old August 28th, 2006, 10:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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prolly so
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wait, i just thought of 2 problems..

#1, if its automatic, u need the key to get it out of park
#2, u need the key to unlock the steering wheel
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Old August 29th, 2006, 09:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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All in all, just order a new ignition switch off ebay or get one at a junkyard. When I had my Jeep, you could start the car without a key. I ordered a new one on ebay for $10 + shipping.
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Just punch the steering colum.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 10:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah i know the steering wheel will still be locked and i am just doing this to see if the thing is even gonna be worth the time and money of getting a new ignition

if it looks promising i will get a new ignition
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Old August 29th, 2006, 10:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Go find a good locksmith and either take the car to him or bring him to the car. If you find one that knows how to impression a key or can look the key code up in his computer, he will make you a new key no problem. Just take the title or something to prove you own the car.



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Old August 29th, 2006, 10:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i want to see if its gonna run before i spend that kinda money on it cause it would suck ass to spend the money on getting a key or new ignition to find out that the motor is junk
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With an RX7 you automatically assume the motor is junk and sometimes you get a pleasant surprise.



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lol.
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With an RX7 you automatically assume the motor is junk and sometimes you get a pleasant surprise.

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It's true though. The motors weren’t that reliable to begin with and often the cars were beat on. The twin turbo RX7 my uncle had was a great car, but even though he never really beat on it the car still had its share of problems. Really, that's to be expected with a rotary engine though. It hasn't had anywhere near the amount of time spent in engineering that the piston engine has had to "perfect" it. It's relatively new technology.



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well i got the car for free so i figure if i can get it to start and run i might put a little money in it but if not its off to the scrap yard
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Actually the N/A rotary engine is pretty reliable.
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Actually the N/A rotary engine is pretty reliable.
Maybe, but if something does go wrong engine wise there arn't too many people out there who know their way around a rotary. It's also not exactly cheap to get parts for.



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Just like new fords?!

It all went downhill when they went from the 7.3L to the 6.0L diesel.

Though, I have to say my mustang has been extremely reliable. Not a single problem yet, which really surprised me (usually convertibles and/or modified cars get all kinds of problems). So far it's beating my mothers Lexus, my uncles Mercedes and new BMW 325xi, and my cousins Audi A4 reliability wise. "Knock on wood"



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It all went downhill when they went from the 7.3L to the 6.0L diesel.

Though, I have to say my mustang has been extremely reliable. Not a single problem yet, which really surprised me (usually convertibles and/or modified cars get all kinds of problems). So far it's beating my mothers Lexus, my uncles Mercedes and new BMW 325xi, and my cousins Audi A4 reliability wise. "Knock on wood"
Yeah.. but you also don't drive it every day.
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