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Old December 12th, 2007, 06:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so I've decided to join the Army. I went down to MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) the other week and was disqualified at the end because I was 1% over my allotted body fat for my height. Here's the numbers.


I'm 5'10" and 230 LBS. Because I was this heavy they had to measure about my neck and stomach (they say they're measuring your waist but it's your mid stomach) to determine my % body fat. My only problem was that my stomach was like 2 inches to big

So I go back in a month to measure again, and I need to get my stomach down as much as possible.

How can I do this? Just a lot of sit ups? Any other ideas?
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you don't need to develop you stomach muscles, you need to run/swim/ride a bike to burn some fat.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 06:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old December 12th, 2007, 07:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Werd, you can lose that in a month no problem. Just run a bit, do some biking.

Did you decide to join over night?
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What is your motivation come to think of it? Out of curiosity of course.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 07:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I was curious myself. I have thought about it plenty of times, but I've spent time on it. I hope this isn't an impulse decision.
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To all the responses above, I haven't eaten fast food or drank ANY pop in the past four months. I eat clean and healthy and also exercise every day. That includes 1-2 mile run, sit ups, push ups, weights and so on. Here's my concern though; I know I can lose the weight no problem. In the last 3 months I've lost 40 lbs. My concern is that I will lose a lot of weight, but not a lot of it will be off my stomach so I'll fail again since my stomach won't go down as much, regardless of still losing like ~10 lbs.

In response as to why I wanted to join:

This is something I've always wanted to do, but I've never had the balls to actually follow through with it. However 3 of my friends just joined and I wasn't planning on doing it until I went to see their graduation from Basic Training. The whole ceremony was very powerful, and getting to be on the base seeing it all first hand, and hearing them talk about how much they loved it made me decide to actually go through with it this time.

It wasn't overnight though. I spent at least 3 solid days thinking about nothing but this. I went back and forth over and over but finally realized that I'm tired and bored of my life right now, and I'd be pissed if I kept living this life and didn't sign up finally.
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So I guess my question was that will doing a lot of sit ups flatten my stomach a decent amount? Or is there something else I can do. I plan on losing weight until then, but I want a lot of it to be off my stomach since that's the only thing that is keeping my out right now.
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So I guess my question was that will doing a lot of sit ups flatten my stomach a decent amount?
the muscle will push out your stomach if anything. run/bike/box/jog/whatever will burn fat. not situps.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Honestly, i would use this as a chance to get fully in shape. PTs are going to kick your ass, and you will get recycled if you don't pass *you will have to start basic all over again with the next group*
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the muscle will push out your stomach if anything. run/bike/box/jog/whatever will burn fat. not situps.
That's what I was afraid of. I'll just keep focusing on cardio since that seems to be the fastest way to burn fat off. And I know I'll be able to pass PT tests. I have ~1.5 months until I go and I'm in decent shape now. I'll be training every day until I ship.
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That's what I was afraid of. I'll just keep focusing on cardio since that seems to be the fastest way to burn fat off. And I know I'll be able to pass PT tests. I have ~1.5 months until I go and I'm in decent shape now. I'll be training every day until I ship.
You're running 1-2 miles which really isn't **** (no offense to be honest) You need to be running upwards of 3-5 miles on a consistent basis to really see any good calerie burn.

If I may offer some unsolicited advice, my cousin was always thinking about the military as a career, and spoke like it was the greatest thing after basic, but now, a year later, he's ready to get out ASAP. Maybe talk to someone who's been in the military for more than 8 weeks?
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Old December 12th, 2007, 09:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You're running 1-2 miles which really isn't **** (no offense to be honest) You need to be running upwards of 3-5 miles on a consistent basis to really see any good calerie burn.

If I may offer some unsolicited advice, my cousin was always thinking about the military as a career, and spoke like it was the greatest thing after basic, but now, a year later, he's ready to get out ASAP. Maybe talk to someone who's been in the military for more than 8 weeks?

I have another friend whose been in 4 years and my Uncle has made a career out of it and both still love it. I know what I'm doing, I wouldn't make a decision like this based off of one or two opinions.
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I have another friend whose been in 4 years and my Uncle has made a career out of it and both still love it. I know what I'm doing, I wouldn't make a decision like this based off of one or two opinions.
Ah right on, hence why my advice was unsolicited. Well, just lemme know when you get in so I can start badgering you.
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You're running 1-2 miles which really isn't **** (no offense to be honest) You need to be running upwards of 3-5 miles on a consistent basis to really see any good calerie burn.
Sorry but that is terrible advice. If he doesn't run frequently, especially longer distances, randomly increasing the work load and weekly mileage is going to stress his joints and tendons too much, especially since he is overweight.

It's about heart rate and duration, rather than distance. The miles you log are just for gloating purposes. Any real runner knows that.

You'd probably be better off mixing your workouts up by utilizing a bike several times a week, as it will be less demanding on your bodies fragile mechanics while still providing sufficient exercise.
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I think you have heard a great deal of advise that is worth taking..

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Get ready for daily PT. Get up to running 5 miles at a crack cause that is the shortest distance you will ever run while in Basic. You will do this every day.

Get good at pushups, like 50+ at a crack. You will be doing tons of pushups.

Do leg lifts -- when you lay flat on your back and raise your legs 3" off the ground and hold it. DI's love that one. Make it more fun by doing a body v and lift your shoulders off the ground too.

Basic is a pain, but a manageable one. However if you are a soft body when you go in it will be hell. You get no sympathy from your squad or the DI's.

lastly, we are in wartime. If you don't think that you won't end up over here with a rifle becase of your MOS, or recruiter's promises, you are sadly mistaken. EVERYONE is an 11b Basic Infantryman before they do anything, and it is your first and foremost job with the Army.

So take the time to get in good shape. Take basic seriously, but don't let it get you down. Keep your eyes and ears open, keep your mouth shut, and look for every opportunity to lead.

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Sorry but that is terrible advice. If he doesn't run frequently, especially longer distances, randomly increasing the work load and weekly mileage is going to stress his joints and tendons too much, especially since he is overweight.
Good advise for the general population but we are talking the Army here. He better be ready to run 5+ miles without puking prior to getting to basic or he will have a hard time of it.

The best thing I can suggest is the 5/5 rules of running.

Do the whole 5 miles, but at first run for 5 minutes and then walk for 5 minutes. Every other day reduce the number of walking minutes and increase the number of running minutes so that it is 6 running, 4 walking etc... Do this until you are running the whole 5 miles.

It worked for me and I am a soft body...



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Sorry but that is terrible advice. If he doesn't run frequently, especially longer distances, randomly increasing the work load and weekly mileage is going to stress his joints and tendons too much, especially since he is overweight.

It's about heart rate and duration, rather than distance. The miles you log are just for gloating purposes. Any real runner knows that.

You'd probably be better off mixing your workouts up by utilizing a bike several times a week, as it will be less demanding on your bodies fragile mechanics while still providing sufficient exercise.
I'm not saying he needs to do that right now, but he needs to get comfortable running those distances (ie, longer distances) if he really wants to work off caleries. But then again what do I know about running.
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point taken (x2), i still maintain my injury prevention worried-mother advice though.

5/5 is a good idea Medic I often forget about such training techniques because at my running level (yay i sound pompous) that is obsolete.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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after hearing that medic, I'll never, never, never, never join the army. I'd quit in the first week. People pushing me with no sympathy or willingness to care de-motivates me more than anything else in the world. Even when i was in amazing shape, 2ish miles at a time was enough for me. If i broke it down to 5-6 miles a day in 2 sperate insistences, yeh i could do it.
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