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Old September 24th, 2012, 03:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hazing

OK - So...we have a very nice spread of male-dominated 15-40 year old individuals....so this can actually be somewhat fun depending on how thoroughly each person chooses to weigh in.

For the time being, I'll do my best to be unbiased until we have a couple responses - at which point I'll throw out my pseudo-extreme view on this:


Hazing:

I was sorting through college paperwork and values statements, sifting through different clubs and policies... because a 9-6 employee has time to attend 2+ classes AND participate in clubs...right?

The one form that stuck out most - was agreeing to the University policy on hazing to induct members into a university sanctioned group/organization, the punishments, and the fact that it would be brought to the local police.

Now, I wasn't aware there were hazing laws in place - and a quick google search for Illinois Hazing brought up:
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" Sec. 5. Hazing. A person commits hazing who knowingly requires the performance of any act by a student or other person in a school, college, university, or other educational institution of this State, for the purpose of induction or admission into any group, organization, or society associated or connected with that institution if:

(a) the act is not sanctioned or authorized by that educational institution; and

(b) the act results in bodily harm to any person.


720 ILCS 120/10. Sentence


Sec. 10. Sentence. Hazing is a Class A misdemeanor, except hazing that results in death or great bodily harm is a Class 4 felony."

Sooo... Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?

Is this a whistle-blower's free-for-all?
Early Stages of a police state?
Government stepping in to protect its people?
Necessary intervention to deter those that haze?

Is this something that we think will impact the future of tournament paintball in some way/shape based on the drills teams run?
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Old September 24th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Necessary because of some of the MORONS that have taken hazing too far.

Great example of the idiocy of a few ruining the fun of many.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We're not even and haze in the military anymore... I know that we did when I was in college though. I agree with tlmiller. Some people take it WAY too far, and some people complain WAY too much.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Necessary because of some of the MORONS that have taken hazing too far.

Great example of the idiocy of a few ruining the fun of many.
couldn't have said it any better. hazing laws exist up here north of the 49th as well
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Old September 24th, 2012, 08:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Having gone through college and been in several organizations that did some shenanigans or being in charge of organizations and making sure we complied with these anti-hazing policies I only have two things to say on the topic.

1) being smart about a situation will prevent most things from going south
2) what can be defined as hazing is breath-takingly broad
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Old September 24th, 2012, 09:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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what hazing? its an initiation ritual =P
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Old September 24th, 2012, 09:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Several students have died from "hazing", I have no problem with hazing laws. I agree with everything else that has been said in here.

I "haze" people with an organization I am involved with, we are smart about it, and have used the same "ritual" for the past 30 years(before my time). No pain is involved, the people who have to do it are not offended, embarrassed, or anything, it is just funny for everybody else to watch because they do not know what is going to happen. It is a piece of equipment they HAVE to use, so its no big deal.


Stuff like that is acceptable; beatings, shoving bananas with Icy Hot on them up peoples ass, sucking dicks, etc... is not.
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Some people have taken it way too far! I agree in initiations, but like toxic said, bananas up the ass? That's just sick...
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Old September 25th, 2012, 02:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I have no problem with those laws, because of the reasons tmiller pointed out. Poking fun at new people, in good nature, is always acceptable though.
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