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View Poll Results: ...changing the name of french fries to freedom fries in some areas...

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Old March 12th, 2003, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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What a weird way for our country to dis france....anybody else here of this?

Changing the name of french fries and even french toast......


I personaly think its dumb.....but france is dumb too, they never support the USA unless it DIRECTLY involves them (WWII)
They need to use some of their selfish resources and help out their "friends"...although we own them...

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Old March 12th, 2003, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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they had our ass in the revolutionary war...

but i do agree that that should have our back in this thing too since terrorism and taliban effects everyone
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Old March 12th, 2003, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Lol! I was just talking about that with people.
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Old March 12th, 2003, 04:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lol u actually think the french supported us in WW2? u need to learn ur history buddy..... france was destroyed and taken over by germany like a year or 2 before we even entered, so they didnt do jack crap for support

but in WW1 they did pretty good, and they didnt support us... we were the ones to support them
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Old March 12th, 2003, 06:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I was watching the news and some french idiot protesting the war agains Iraq had a poster with the shape of the US of A with a big swastika (nazi) symbol on it. If I was over there, I would've got that poster and shoved it down his mouth. They should be happy their speaking French and not German.

I appreciate what they did in the Revolutionary War, but they also really hated the Brits at the time. But comparing us to Nazis? We didn't imprison or gas innocents because of their religion.
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Old March 12th, 2003, 07:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yea, i can admit our country is kinda bossy and gets into other peoples business, but u know what foreign people? thats how we became one of the greatest nations in the world! so shove it france!

yea theyd be speakin german or italian right now if it wasnt for us, as would britain and every other part of europe
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Old March 12th, 2003, 08:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i have nothing against france and i think the freedom fries thing is incredably gay. ur saying the french rn't free? ok, on anouther note, france kinda screwed up this century, but think of what they did to shape the world in the past.
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Old March 12th, 2003, 08:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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lol u actually think the french supported us in WW2? u need to learn ur history buddy..... france was destroyed and taken over by germany like a year or 2 before we even entered, so they didnt do jack crap for support

but in WW1 they did pretty good, and they didnt support us... we were the ones to support them

heh..I know my history...buddy... .....they did support us in many ways...POLITICALLY....considering we were helping them get their country back..... they also helped in the planning of the invasion..they also had spies and they dropped well trained troops into france to perform little covert things such as destroying ammo sites and such....just not many of them...because they didn't have much force....


and for the Revolutionary War! heh...I am very thankful for them in that...without them we would have had quite a bit of trouble .....but I was trying to refer to more modern stuff....such as the UN....although the UN wasn't completely formed during WWII....as I recall....
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People in France, make that Europe ('cept for U.K. of course), have this idea carved into their heads since WWII that war is worse than hell. I can actually see why they are so reluctant for war, but honestly, Iraq really isn't as bad as Germany. I doubt Iraq has secretly amassed an army to take over the Middle East and Europe. If the world's countries would ban together and get their heads out of their asses, some results would defenitely be produced. Even if war is an answer, at least we would have a solution. And second of all, Iraq isn't really our problem. North Korea and Iran have reactivated their nuclear programs and we should seriously take a look at whats happening there. My grandfather fought in the Korean War and I'll be damned if his the time he spent fighting down there was for nothing.
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Old March 12th, 2003, 09:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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oh yea and about the freedom fries thing, who really cares what their called. Their food. For like the ten seconds that its in my hand going to my mouth I really dont care what its called.
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Y'all make a good point. But for some reason, the French people hate us. When my grandparents went to France, the people spat at them! Because they were American! And this was months before 9/11.

You can call them french fries/freedom fries, I wouldn't care. Its food. But I do like the patriotism.
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P.A.N.T.S., you are right about North Korea. I'm more scared of them than I would be of Iraq. That Kim Jong-il guy is one crazy SOB. Kidnapping Japanese citizens just to train NK spies
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Old March 12th, 2003, 10:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You know how oyu make the French love you? Get a friend to dress up as a Nazi Storm Trooper and have him come in and then you kick his ass, you're a national hero.
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ha ha jimmy kimmel live.....freedom fries, it was on his show
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Old March 13th, 2003, 11:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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This is quite possibly one of the stupidest thing i have ever heard, plain and simple. Not this week, not this year, ever. It astounds me to realize that we pay big fat idiots to sit around in congress and piss away our money talking about this, when we are the on verge of a possible biological war.
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True that Iraq is not as big and scary as the Thrid Reich was back in the thirties. But That's not the reason people in Europe are on their toes. When Sadams back is to the wall and he has no reason NOT to launch his chem. weapons. they are not going to land in NYC or LA. They're aimed straght at Paris, London, Berlin etc. the list goes on.

I would like to add that the US governement is nothing short of retarded in trying to imply that France owes us something. France fell in the second world war not because of it's incopetent army, but the incomptence of it's leaders, Paris was handed to the Germans. Not lost. America also did not go into Europe in 1944 as the valiant crusaders out to save the world. America was more than happy to ride this whole war thing out on the sidelines. It took the sudden atack at Pearl harbor to open our eyes to the fact that the axis powers were a GLOBAL threat. The reason we looked so cool going into Europe was that we were a largely untouched army, backed by a country that had nothing better to do than build up it's millitary in the years leading to the Normandy invasion.

France aside. I would like to point out that France is not the only country that thinks it aint the greatest idea to provoke sadaam into using the weapons he has. What about russia? Since G.W.B. likes to talk about WWII so much we can focus on the fact that out of the 50 millinon lives lost in the conflict, 50% or 25 millinon of those lives lost belonged to the sons and daughters of one "Mother Russia". I may very well be wrong, but last I heard( I don't keep up with the news as well as I'd like) Russia is opposed the use of force against sadam.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is, Freedom Fries are stupid.
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Most people in other countries hate the U.S. No offense, but im not a big fan myself. Other countries dont like being bossed around and that U.S. takes the credit for everything. Im sure Britain and other countries helped out in Afghanistan, but all you hear is U.S.
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Well, the only reason why the US is "taking" all the credit is because that's what the journalists decide to put in their reports. For example, the US awarded an Australian SAS commando for helping rescue a CIA operative. I don't think that got much public attention. And a few days before the Columbia space shuttle tragedy, 4 soldiers died in Afghanistan, but the news about the shuttle took up most of the attention.
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I think it's great how in this country we are defacing just about everything that is French in origin because of their cowardly stance and unwillingness to do justice for the world community by supporting the removal of the dictator and madman that is Saddam Hussein. I especially like how many establishments are no longer serving French cuisine, especially in Louisiana (Mardis Gras, French Quarter, New Orleans.....get it? ) because we are basically pimp-slapping the French for doing what they do best: put their tail between their legs and walk away like cowards.
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Old March 13th, 2003, 06:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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France hasnt one a war by itself as far as I know.

Thats why I love airsoft guys quote:

"Hmm, yes take over the world with a airsoft Uzi, well good luck with that. Here's a little advice for going about that, start with France."
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Old March 13th, 2003, 06:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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well one reason france usualy surrenders is because they dont want to bring destruction to their country because it has hundereds of years of history and art.... if it got bombed all of the historic 1 of a kind building, sculpters, paintings, museams, and other things, they will be gone forever....

but enough defending on frances side.... i still think they are losers for not backing us up
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Oh yea I also saw (on the news) like 6 people pouring wine down the gutter on a street. AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE WAS LIKE 6 YEARS OLD. so much for that "hey, maybe americans are somewhat civilized and can understand other different points of view" man those people looked like a bunch of hicks. great image. thanks.
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You think that 'freedom fries' is a terrible idea, well that's been done before. Durring WWII, there was intense discrimination against Germans. We replaced all german words with something stupid and patriotic. For a while, saurkraut was Freedom Cabbage (NO LIE!), as well as several other deculturalizations. The only one that really caught on was the shift from 'Wieners' to 'Hot Dogs.' Yep, the 'hot dog' is a symbol of anti-German sentiment. Fancy that. But how far are you willing to go? I don't want to end up 'freedom-kissing' my girlfriend, or anything stupid like that.

And yeah, way to go America. France doesn't agree, so let's make fun of them behind their backs. That's SURE to make them agree with us. Real bright, everyone.
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Old March 13th, 2003, 07:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
 
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Liberty Cabbage was what they called it. I'm not racist to the French, but if they're gonna hate me, then I'm gonna hate them.
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