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Old October 24th, 2004, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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John Kerry's newfound sentiments

All of a sudden John Kerry is into some things that I never saw him doing within the last year. Hunting, for example. I liked the SNL's Weekend Update last night. 'After John Kerry was done shooting the ducks, they went back to the truck and he accused his fellow hunters of raping and cutting off the duck's heads.'

Another is his new religious stance. All of his speeches now have to do with his faith. I guess he decided to be a preacher. He's been quoting scripture and everything.

I hope the American people are smart enough to see past these charades. The sad part is, many will fall for it. Thats enough of my political rant, I just havent seen anything this artificial since the creation of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter.
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Old October 24th, 2004, 07:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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kerry has been hunting and talking about religion when he became senator.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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I guess I have never noticed that before. Its funny that the news has also noticed that he has become a lot more interested in religion within the last week.

"Kerry's discussion of faith in the closing days of the campaign comes as he seeks to blunt President Bush's appeal to the faithful and present himself as a candidate whom undecided voters can trust to lead." -Miami Herald
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kerry has been hunting and talking about religion when he became senator.
Chaos is correct.

However, in Massachusets, Kerry openly supported the ban to ban most hunting rifles. The gun he was holding in the picture would be VERY illegal in Mass. This is one reason why hunters don't consider him a hunter.

He also does say he is a Catholic, but Catholic priests all over the country have said they would refuse him communion because most of his beliefs directly contradict the vaticans. This is one reason why many catholics don't consider him a catholic.

So, this isnt a new flip-flop for Kerry. He has been doing these flipflops since he first became a senator.

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in one of his relegious preaches he said his "favorite" line from the bible...ends up he mis read it and said sumthign totally different (and ended up making a different meeting out of the segment)...my mom is in the bible study and that infuriiated all the other ladies there cuz hes being a total fake tard.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 09:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think Kerry is just in this race so he can be president. Not so he can make america a better place. But so he can be number 44. HE just wants to be famous. He's an idiot, adn everythign he does is for votes adn I can't stand and do not understand how people can like him. I live in Massachusetts, and abotu 60% of the state is liberal flaming retards.
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He's an idiot, adn everythign he does is for votes adn I can't stand and do not understand how people can like him. I live in Massachusetts, and abotu 60% of the state is liberal flaming retards.
Well, I don't think he is an idiot. He went to harvard? right? I know it was the same school that Bush went to.
I think Kerry is pretty smart. He is an excellent speaker, and is very adept at knowing which way the wind blows on certain issues.
For example: He is against a federal ban on Gay marrage... because thats what the majority of people in the USA feel.
But... he is FOR a STATE ban on Gay marriage in Massachusets... because thats what the majority of people in Mass feel...

SO why do people still vote for him? I think lots of people hate Bush, and will vote for whomever runs against him.
WHy the Bush hatred? Well, Bush has done a pretty good job, but the things that make liberals mad is that the GOP controls the house, senate, presidency, supreme court, and most state houses and Govs.
There was a huge conservative push in this country, and it means that the right can pass whatever laws they want, and PREVENT the left from passing any.

This makes the left very mad (about environmental, abortion rights, whatever). The easiest solution is to stick a puppet liberal in the office.

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I really think the media has a lot to do with it. The people who control thigns are definetly liberal. And when you own a giant company like that, you can sway a helluva lot of people.
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This is insane. He's a politician, of course he's going to try and appeal to as many groups of people as possible, every single politician does this.

As for flip-flopping, waht exactly ahs bush been doing over Iraq, First we were going to get him because Saddam had links with 9/11 which he didn't. Second we were going to get rid of WMD's, which Iraq didn't have. and then third we were invading to free the Iraqi peopela dn make them safe.

Bush has changed his position on Iraq so many times its beyond belief that no one's worked out that he was lying. He lied so that he could have his pathetic little war in which over a 1000 heroic servicemen and countless civilians have died. How is it that he somehow has 'the right stuff' to lead when he makes catastrophic mistakes?! As a historian i cannot begin to comment on the list of errors The Bush Administration made when going into Iraq.

Why exactly is anyone considering voting for this tool? He's and ape in a suit. Admittedly he's an ape with quite good political instincts, but his global view is so 2D it's a wonder that American hasn't been attacked again.

Anyway, vote Kerry, he may not be anything special, but he's definatly better than the rubbish we've had to put up with for the last 4 years.
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I can't wait for this damn election to be over. I'm so sick of hearing about it EVERYWHERE. I'm not gonna go so far as to say Bush is a good president, but he's definatly weak in my opinion. Like that guy said (too lazy to quote) he's flipfloped over Iraq repeatedly. What happened to "Mission Accomplished"? I don't like Kerry either. But at least he can pronounce the words he says. This election sucks... nuff said
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Old October 26th, 2004, 02:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i dont want a president that needs a speaker on his back to tell him what to say during the debate. yes it is a proven fact that george bush had someone telling him what to say during the debate it is spreading quickly and was actually in the news down here. yet they could not find anything against him because he had to make his own rules or he wouldnt debate. i alswell dont like kerry but i cant stand bush stealing anymore money out of this country then he already has.
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i wish people would stop saying that people should vote for the other parties... its not going to happens, legally they only exist to add more of a selection, but voting time, they dont let them to debate so that it wont disrupt the 2-party system. and alpha- how can you say liberals are 'flaming retards', my views are pretty liberal and if you don't like that, then your anti-american. see im entitled to my own beliefs, i am allowed to do what i want when it comes to who im going to vote for and why. its int he constitution, and if you dont like it, then **** you hitler. the only reason you even support the war in iraq is because you 'want to be a marine'. you and millions of other kids who play americas army all day long want to join the army and they get to iraq and realize what they made the mistake of doing. i know personally from people ive known who did. why do you think there are not enough soldiers re-enlisting? its because they realize iraq isnt what they expected it to be. you know, there are alot more important things then iraq. we should be solving the issues in our OWN country, i dont give a **** about iraq. it doesnt affect me one bit. if saddam hussein was killing his people, why didnt the iraqis do anything about it? why did it take ameriica to make the desicion to invade iraq? i dont know too much about whats going on in iraq, and honestly, i dont even care. bush was asked once what he suggests people do if they lose their jobs, apparently 2 million people lost their job this year. he replied with ''go to community college''. that doesnt even make any sense... how can you afford to go to college, and switch careers that easily? it wont happen thats why.. what about outsourcing of jobs? homeless people? gay marriage? what about helping other countries like in africa who are starving to death and dyng every day from epidemics? the flu shot shortage? id rather see an africa being helped, then iraq being bombed the **** out of...
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That "Go to community college" thing STILL kills me. my sister has a PhD in counseling (specialized in helping Deaf people)... My sister was WORKING at a CC. She lost her job cause of the education cut. she have 2 kids and a mortgage to pay. Shes' getting by now, but tshe struggled for a while... I'd love for bush to tell my sister, who is more educated than him, to go back to Community College because she lost her job. His logic is a bit skewed... he's not thinking about the people who have degrees that lose jobs. Oh yeah... and just a side note... Lose your job, go to a CC. My CC's price went up 400% in the last 2 years... from $7 to $28/unit. That's not a lot of money in comparison to other places/schools, but if you don't have a job... $80/class is a lot to toss out if you don't got it. Ugh, that's one of the few things he's said that makes me really dislike the guy.
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Wow, republicans and liberals battle it out. If I had a vote, I'm voting for Nader, or something. But I'd vote for bush, because, you know what? Kerry = idiot imo.
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This is insane. He's a politician, of course he's going to try and appeal to as many groups of people as possible, every single politician does this.

As for flip-flopping, waht exactly ahs bush been doing over Iraq, First we were going to get him because Saddam had links with 9/11 which he didn't. Second we were going to get rid of WMD's, which Iraq didn't have. and then third we were invading to free the Iraqi peopela dn make them safe.

Actually, we've done all 3. Saddam did have links with Al-Queda. There were Al Queda operatives meeting In Iraq. I guess there were just there for the dinner party. Iraq definetly had WMD's. Have you ever heard of the nice people of Northern Iraq. They're called the Kurds. SAddam used WMDs to kill 20,000 of them at once one time. And guess what, we've found most of his WMD's all around the world. They were sold to the highest bidder before the war even started. When the UN got on his ass and we gave him a last warning, what do you think he did? Sat on his fingers? And we have made Iraq much safer. I dont think there are any olimpics team members training with metal soccer balls anymore. I dont think anyone is tortured to the brink of death anymore.

Why exactly is anyone considering voting for this tool? He's and ape in a suit. Admittedly he's an ape with quite good political instincts, but his global view is so 2D it's a wonder that American hasn't been attacked again.

Want to know why we haven't been attacked again? Becuase Bush did somethign abou it. HE's got the terrorists by the balls and isn't gonna let go.
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see im entitled to my own beliefs, i am allowed to do what i want when it comes to who im going to vote for and why. its int he constitution, and if you dont like it, then **** you hitler.
I am ready to fight for the death for your right to say what you want. Even though I strongly disagree.

the only reason you even support the war in iraq is because you 'want to be a marine'. you and millions of other kids who play americas army all day long want to join the army and they get to iraq and realize what they made the mistake of doing.

You know why I support the war in Iraq? Its becuase Iraq is a messed up place,as is most of the middle east, and Iraq is a start.

i know personally from people ive known who did. why do you think there are not enough soldiers re-enlisting? its because they realize iraq isnt what they expected it to be. you know, there are alot more important things then iraq. we should be solving the issues in our OWN country, i dont give a **** about iraq. it doesnt affect me one bit. if saddam hussein was killing his people, why didnt the iraqis do anything about it? why did it take ameriica to make the desicion to invade iraq? i dont know too much about whats going on in iraq, and honestly, i dont even care.

Didn't you just say "**** you hitler"? Well obviously anyone can see that you didn't support world war 2. I mean, you'd rather see all teh jews exterminated. Do you know what genocide is? SAddam committed it by the thousands. How can you say you dont give a **** about Iraq? What about Serbia? Did you care then when Clinton gave the order? I bet you did. Whats the difference between when we were in serbia and when we're in IRaq?

We didn't find mass graves there.
We didn't find wmd's in Iraq (So the media tells us, and thu we believe it.)

We imposed a regime change in serbia
Imposed a regime change in Iraq.

Whats the difference? I'll tell you the difference. The political afiliation of the president. Thats all.

You obviously support genocide. Oh yes. Go kerry. Lets watch as the world rots around us! Hey saddam, you forgot a kurd! Go gas his city and kill his family! Yes!


bush was asked once what he suggests people do if they lose their jobs, apparently 2 million people lost their job this year. he replied with ''go to community college''. that doesnt even make any sense... how can you afford to go to college, and switch careers that easily?

As a teen I know how hard it is to get even a small paying job. Im still hunting. But going to a comunity college is the cheapest and easiest way to get an education. And education usually = better job.

You know what I'd say? I'd say join the military. Why do you need a better job? So you can have money? Go live on an indian reservation and live off the land. Money isnt' everythign in life. You can get buy at life easily.

The question is not what can I get out of life, but more what I can I put into the world.

it wont happen thats why.. what about outsourcing of jobs? homeless people? gay marriage? what about helping other countries like in africa who are starving to death and dyng every day from epidemics? the flu shot shortage? id rather see an africa being helped, then iraq being bombed the **** out of...

Iraqs a start. And if you'd rather help Africa, there are thousands of services devoted to teh cause. The main reason why Africa is so ****ed up right now is beucase its a new continent. SO many countries just popped up out of nowhere and the rest of the world is imposing their religons on them.

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I like how before the first war in Iraq (when most people were wee lads), Saddam asked the U.S.'s permission to invade Kuwait... we said it was an Arab issue. So he took that as "ok, go for it." Imagine his suprise when we "went back" on our words... He used to do nothing but kiss the united state's ass... Jokes on him though! lol.
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"Actually, we've done all 3. Saddam did have links with Al-Queda. There were Al Queda operatives meeting In Iraq. I guess there were just there for the dinner party. Iraq definetly had WMD's. Have you ever heard of the nice people of Northern Iraq. They're called the Kurds. SAddam used WMDs to kill 20,000 of them at once one time. And guess what, we've found most of his WMD's all around the world. They were sold to the highest bidder before the war even started. When the UN got on his ass and we gave him a last warning, what do you think he did? Sat on his fingers? And we have made Iraq much safer. I dont think there are any olimpics team members training with metal soccer balls anymore. I dont think anyone is tortured to the brink of death anymore."

Links with al queda? What links? Specifying would be great, because the most I've seen in any news report was about 2 sentences, and that doesn't justify war. 9/11 was not a reason for going into iraq and we both know it. Hell we had links to al queda, they tried to negotiate with us. You know as well as I that every other third world country has problems like Iraq, and it would be impossible to put democracy in every one of them even if Bush's term was extended. Do you know how many WMDs Russia has? enough to eliminate all life on earth, and the scary thing is the U.S. has more. Iraq isn't the only country manufacturing and owning WMDs.

"Want to know why we haven't been attacked again? Becuase Bush did somethign abou it. HE's got the terrorists by the balls and isn't gonna let go."
The question is why were we attacked in the first place?

"You know why I support the war in Iraq? Its becuase Iraq is a messed up place,as is most of the middle east, and Iraq is a start."
You wanna know whats a messed up place? My school, we have next to no funding because of the budget cuts. We had half the sports teams cut last year, the teachers get 30-50 dollars a class and our counselors almost got taken away, we have 25+ people to a class and incompetent teachers, now we're getting our main building completely re done and we'll be in portables for the next 3 years, thats right, I'm graduating in a ****ing trailer. Want to know why we had the budget cuts? So instead of educating me and the 1,500 other students in my schol Bush could spend money on killing iraqis.

"Didn't you just say "**** you hitler"? Well obviously anyone can see that you didn't support world war 2. I mean, you'd rather see all teh jews exterminated. Do you know what genocide is? SAddam committed it by the thousands. How can you say you dont give a **** about Iraq? What about Serbia? Did you care then when Clinton gave the order? I bet you did. Whats the difference between when we were in serbia and when we're in IRaq?

We didn't find mass graves there.
We didn't find wmd's in Iraq (So the media tells us, and thu we believe it.)

We imposed a regime change in serbia
Imposed a regime change in Iraq.

Whats the difference? I'll tell you the difference. The political afiliation of the president. Thats all.

You obviously support genocide. Oh yes. Go kerry. Lets watch as the world rots around us! Hey saddam, you forgot a kurd! Go gas his city and kill his family! Yes!"

Wow you really pulled the words out of his mouth on that last paragraph didn't you? Give yourself a round of applause because I don't remember hearing that anywhere. Hah because you can see the future and you know exactly how things will turn out while Kerry is president, and of course he'd love to see the world rot around him. Don't be so stupid, no president would just let the world rot and not do anything about it, remember he's gotta get votes for the next election and keep people satisfied.

Serbia and Iraq weren't the only countries where genocide has happened.

"We didn't find wmd's in Iraq (So the media tells us, and thu we believe it."
Who said we have found WMDs in iraq? The last time I saw the link it was on a news corporation, yes news, thats media. I'd believe the many people of the media than one president who just wants money and my vote.

"I'd say join the military. Why do you need a better job?" most people dont like jobs where they hear constant gunfire and where they're newfound friends are dying by the dozen each day. But to each his own.

And yes, thousands of people are starving to death each day, but yet its better for us to let them starve and to go on spending money on imposing our beliefs on Iraq instead of feeding the starving children in Africa. Alpha by the way, he didn't say he'd rather help africa, he said he'd rather see bush spend money feeding people in Africa than spending money on bombing another poor country.

"SO many countries just popped up out of nowhere and the rest of the world is imposing their religons on them."

So you're against imposing beliefs on people too, huh?

"The main reason why Africa is so ****ed up right now is beucase its a new continent."
Haha I laughed openly at that one. Africa is where human life began, as we evolved and moved across the Earth our bodies changed, but yet we still go back to Africa. Now I bet you're gonna say Iraq is a new country too, but guess where civilization began? Thats right, Iraq.
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Snow is onto something there. Written history began in Mesopotamia... which is Iraq. That's one of the problems with the conflict in Iraq. It hasn't been throughoughly "inspected" by Archeoligists and Historians. With all the shelling going on... we don't know what kinds of records we may be destroying/burying (further). That's a fact... and that's one of the biggest tragedies I see in this war.

But he's right, Africa isn't a new continent... it's just mostly "third world" countries. It's so ****ed because nobody is doing anything to help a country that has such a massive percentage of Famine/Aids/ and general death.
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