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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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My fourth grade teacher was wrong!

This is all hindsight. I just remember learning in elem. about the electoral college. The question about "what if somebody wins the popular vote, but loses the electoral?" happens? I remember my teacher saying that it would never happen. It's odd having somebody in office that a majority of voters didn't want. I'm just wondering how things are gonna go tomorrow. Hopefully it's not BS where the counting gets delayed and we dont' know who won for like 4 months (Either way, bush or kerry). It'll be fun to see how Fox News reports it this year also... pure high school soap opera drama ahead!
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 01:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yah my high school teachers lied to me lots. They said we'd catch osama right before the election, they said we planned 9/11, they said bowling for columbine was a documentery, list goes on. It's sad that teachers would impose these things on their students, considering the majority believe whatever comes out their mouth.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 04:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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yeah most students are stupid so teachers like to F*** with them.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 07:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Different teachers have different beliefs, some of which are wrong. When the teacher said "we will catch osama before the elections" he/she probably wasn't serious..just to confident, your just the dumb one to take it seriously. Its hard to explain what it is like.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 07:36 AM   #5 (permalink)
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They said we'd catch osama right before the election
ok thats stupid, mabye one of them THOUGHT that, no one can even prove it.
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they said we planned 9/11
they definetely didnt say that was TRUE at least. infact, half the stuff you've said already that your teacher 'supposedly' lied about is stuff people say on this forum.
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it IS a documentary dumbass.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 07:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
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It definately is NOT a documentary
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 08:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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yea no kidding. wow if you think bowling for columbine is a documentary you got some mad liberal gullibility

yea i hate how all elementary teachersa are liberals and brainwash you till you leave the little school
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 09:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is all hindsight. I just remember learning in elem. about the electoral college. The question about "what if somebody wins the popular vote, but loses the electoral?" happens? I remember my teacher saying that it would never happen. It's odd having somebody in office that a majority of voters didn't want. I'm just wondering how things are gonna go tomorrow. Hopefully it's not BS where the counting gets delayed and we dont' know who won for like 4 months (Either way, bush or kerry). It'll be fun to see how Fox News reports it this year also... pure high school soap opera drama ahead!

thats y gore lost w/ the majority vote 4 yrs ago and i think it happened once befor, but i cant remember w/ who
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Yah my high school teachers lied to me lots. They said we'd catch osama right before the election, they said we planned 9/11, they said bowling for columbine was a documentery, list goes on. It's sad that teachers would impose these things on their students, considering the majority believe whatever comes out their mouth.
because democrats claim to fund education more and teachers think they should be payed more for their easy ass jobs with more vacation than the vast majority of other jobs, so they eat up democrat propaganda. Most teachers are unfortunately democrats, as most of them are stupid middle aged women.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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because democrats claim to fund education more and teachers think they should be payed more for their easy ass jobs with more vacation than the vast majority of other jobs, so they eat up democrat propaganda. Most teachers are unfortunately democrats, as most of them are stupid middle aged women.
easy ass jobs? are you a dumbass, my mom is a teacher i KNOW for a fact its not easy. my mom is ALWAYS taking courses. teachers SHOULD be payed more, they are one of the largest professions and have the strongest unions. 'stupid middle aged women'? isnt that a little general? i have some old teachers, some young ones, and some middle aged ones. what does that even have to do with the profession in general? you probably dont like teachers because they 'give too much work'. you'd be suprised how much work teachers actually have. you no only have to write new lesson plans each year, you have to grade hundreds of papers, do the work that the students do, and you have to take courses that the school required you to take. my mom is always taking classes till like 7pm because she needs a higher paycheck. and teachers dont demand more money for no reason, they are underpaid, they dont make that much and when youve been teaching for over 25 years like my mom, youll want a higher salary. one of my teachers teaches EVERY bussiness course available at the school. that statement is probably the dumbest thing ever. if teachers werent payed, no one would be a teacher, and out education system wouldn't be as extensive as it is today. infact you probably couldn't even form that opinion if it wasnt for a teacher!
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 12:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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easy ass jobs? are you a dumbass, my mom is a teacher i KNOW for a fact its not easy. my mom is ALWAYS taking courses. teachers SHOULD be payed more, they are one of the largest professions and have the strongest unions. 'stupid middle aged women'? isnt that a little general? i have some old teachers, some young ones, and some middle aged ones. what does that even have to do with the profession in general? you probably dont like teachers because they 'give too much work'. you'd be suprised how much work teachers actually have. you no only have to write new lesson plans each year, you have to grade hundreds of papers, do the work that the students do, and you have to take courses that the school required you to take. my mom is always taking classes till like 7pm because she needs a higher paycheck. and teachers dont demand more money for no reason, they are underpaid, they dont make that much and when youve been teaching for over 25 years like my mom, youll want a higher salary. one of my teachers teaches EVERY bussiness course available at the school. that statement is probably the dumbest thing ever. if teachers werent payed, no one would be a teacher, and out education system wouldn't be as extensive as it is today. infact you probably couldn't even form that opinion if it wasnt for a teacher!
okay the middle age women was a little extremem i geuss. But teachers have easy jobs and are paid more than enough. My mom was a teacher too. She quit because of their commy unions and how they always complained about not getting enough money. Look at it logically teachers have easy jobs.

If you're a highg school teacher you start at 8:30 and are done at 2:30. thats alot less than the average office job.

Marking? you are not teaching all day many teachers can finish the marking they have to do at school. And if not you get home lets say at 4:00 that is still an hour before the average 9-5 worker is even done. and 1-2 hours before they actually get home. 2 hours a night is more than enough for most courses

Vacation. wow teachers get 2 weeks christmas, 10 weeks summer, 1 week spring break, plus every possible holiday. The minimum (which most people get) for other jobs is two weeks! teachers get 13! thats six times as much! thats an ass-load of not working.

lesson plans every year? your joking right? the first year is a *****, but then teachers just do the same thing for like 50 years! except for the slight curriculum change, every 5 yearrs or so

But this isn't enough for teachers for some reason, and you are a perfect example of the brainwashing teachers attempt to do on their kids. And no, i like alot of teachers and i like education alot, im in university for bio-medical science. what are you in? grade 9?

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Old November 2nd, 2004, 12:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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even if you think teaching is such an easy profession, why are you complaining about it? because they make alot of money and its easy? so then do it and stop *****ing about how its unfair.
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even if you think teaching is such an easy profession, why are you complaining about it? because they make alot of money and its easy? so then do it and stop *****ing about how its unfair.
ha good come back. unable to refute any of my points?

and if you read you would note that i said that teachers are unjustified to demand more money.

specifically by going on strikes beacsue of their commy unions and depriving children of education which my tax dollars are supposed to be paying for.
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Wow.. just wow. Ghandi you're really missing something. I dunno if you're too young or too old to understand high school. I'm tutoring right now... and I can't even COMPREHEND how teachers deal with the **** they do. Most kids don't care, and the teachers have to get the kids to learn a certian cirriculum which they pretty much change yearly... My mom is a teacher too, so yeah... Saying teachers get paid enough deserves a slap. First off they teach... secondly, they babysit all the little kiddies for 7 hours a day. I'd say they should get more cash. And you're a fool for talking about the summer/winter break. I'll tell you the problem with that. Every summer we're strapped for cash around here. My mom gets paid enough to survive the rest of the year... but summer... "Oh they get vacation." Yeah... and they don't get paid during it... except for once.. in September. A lot of teachers have to teach summer/winter sessions just to get by.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 12:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Wow Gandhi. You suck.
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if you cant handle little kids why the hell would you be a teacher?
or you could just teach adcademic courses in high school so you only get older children.

and what about a person working at costomer relations at wall mart, they make less than teachers and have people *****ing at them all day. that takes strength too.

and saying they dont get paid enough enough to support a family is a very weak argument. what about a single teenage mom working at wallmart? shes constantly going to have people complaing to her and she wont have enough to support a family. we should pay her more too under your logic.

if you dont think you can make enough as a teacher, dont teach! no ones forcing you too. teachers who just think about not making enough moiney are ****ty teachers anyway.
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Do you have down syndrome? My mom does teach high school, and I tutor high school. High school kids are the problems... Elem. is easy.. High school kids are idiots (not all, but enough to generalize). I'll agree that teachers that teach ****ty because they don't get paid enough should die... but others do deserve more pay...

And I can't believe you brought in single mom at walmart. I'm gonna teach when I'm out of college... by then I should be about 30k+ in debt. That walmart mom doesn't have to worry about student debt, etc. Teachers get paid one of the worst out-of-college salaries of any carrer. They work hard and get through school... and don't get paid to the degree that they should.
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well if you have a problem with high school kids dont teach them! teach elementary. If you think teaching high shcool kids will be a ***** because high school kids are mostly "idiots", then you will be a ****ty high school teacher. teachers who like what they do are awesome. I've had a few in my high school career and i loved their classes so much. But for everyone 1 of those theres 10 who hate it and their classes suck.

work hard in college? whats your major, if its an arts i will laugh. and the science teachers are usually people who got a scienece degree, but were too stupid to do any graduate studies. note, there are a few exceptions, and these are the exceptional teachers. but there are too many teachers who just fell back on teaching, as they failed in other endevours.

think about coolege logically, a person with a buisiness degree is very useful in society. a person with an undergraduate in history? not so much, their only option is teaching. and a buisness is alot more work than history.

Also saying that because they get the summer off they don't get enough money is retarted! Thats my point! why should we pay them to sit at home all day in the summer! If they don't have enough money then get a summer job. Students seem to manage.

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even if you think teaching is such an easy profession, why are you complaining about it? because they make alot of money and its easy? so then do it and stop *****ing about how its unfair.
yea since 3 months off in the summer and a few weeks here and there all over the rest of the year is such a horrible job....
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It'll be fun to see how CNN reports it this year also... pure high school soap opera drama ahead!
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Teachers should not be on a fixed salary, where the only variable is time worked at the same system. That means that the crappiest, laziest teacher in your school gets paid more than the best, most loved, best teaching, and even state-reknown teacher at your school if the crappy one has worked even a year longer.

Nothing good comes from govt salaries and unionized monopolize.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
 
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And FOX is the first to pronounce Bush winning ohio/ the election
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And FOX is the first to pronounce Bush winning ohio/ the election
Hmmm... reminds me of 4 years ago. All the media is FUBAR... not just Fox News and CNN... but since I'm semi-liberal... Fox News bugs me more.
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