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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Note from Avanters

Avanters asked me to post this message regarding today's incident: (You know... if it weren't for things like this, PBF wouldn't be the most exciting and stressful paintball forum on the net!) ... Just a little dry humor for everyone who is starting to fall asleep at the keyboard.

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I, Avanters, had no intentions of completely obliterating the entire forum, merely serving some damage to a few special members and moderators. I had gained administrator access and watched pms and moderator forums all day. I did not like what I was watching. This made me loose my cool and take some measures that I regret. I take back all threats against Paintballforum.com and anyone or thing involved in paintballforum.com. This includes all moderators and members personal computers, which were original targets. I was banned for "Intention to distribute drugs/drug parfenalia." I immaturely put this in my mind, "I am avanters, I helped save this forum back in may, and I get banned for somthing this pretty without warning" That made me some what flip... Then I used an exploit to gain admin access. I sat here today waiting on Mark (COBRA, Head Administrator) To logon to aim or contact me some how. He did. We spoke on the phone for 45 minutes. I listened to what he had to say as did he. I have decided to step away from paintballforum.com. I will not take any actions against anyone. I will not even go to paintballforum.com anymore. I will refrain from anything that may cause havoc and distress.

Also! I did not have any aim conversations with anyone except ted. The ones you see are faked... Kinda sad huh? This can be verified by mark, considering I was not on aim the time that these conversations were supposidly taking place.

You can thank mark for this. The only reason you are able to read this or anything else on the forum is because of him. If I was treated in this way anywere else, it would be defaced and sent to hell. I like mark, hes a great guy, hes the reason why you have this forum, and the reason why you are here right now.

Thank you,
Avanters

P.S.

If any of you would like to contact me for any reason what so ever, feel free to e-mail or aim me, please keep it out of the forums, there is no reason for that.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Good, I guess?... no one really liked him anyway.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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He still hacked this time. But at least he apologized and all that, thanks for sorting this out mark.
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't mind me asking *havent been here in 2 days* but what happened? Is there a link to a thread explaining any of this?
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When was the server down? I never noticed...
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 11:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ya, cool to get that outta the way.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It was like an hour or 2 ago.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:09 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Avanters really needs to get laid...I hope I don't get in trouble for that comment.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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whoop de doo 0?
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I still am in the dark in a lot of things about avanters, why is was able to supposedly stop the hacker yet no one else could, why he never came on pbf after that incident, why he got banned for supposedly selling drugs(Have no remote idea how that gets into a forum???). It's all messed up to me, I slightly understand if you don't want us to know, but it'd just be nice to see a clear explanation of the whole thing once and for all.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmm...Somebody in the other thread said the forum was down for a few hours. Is this true? I noticed it was down, but it wasn't for long at all.
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Read the posts above, the forum was shut down for a while, about 2 hours ago.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 12:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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..That was my post, lol.

But how long was it down. Couldn't have been more than an hour.
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god forbid some people couldn't have their precious paintballforum for an hour
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avanters is a cool guy. I dunno why we are being mean to him after he spared us. LoL
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 01:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yep, glad he changed his mind.

Talked to him about it and we're all cool now. Thanks to Mark as well.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 05:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
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good job mark

as for avantars...it may be better to keep my opinion of him out of the forum
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I like how he aplogised and threatened us all in the same sentance.

Sorry - but I still don't like the little puke.

Thanks Mark for your speedy intervention.



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why not just let him hack the forum?

Mark obviously knows who he is. Let him hack the forum and then get the fbi on him. Problem solved
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don't know what to do about him...i have respect for anyone that can hack, it really isn't too easy...
btw, welcome back sno.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 08:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Why doesnt he get out of his computer chair and into the sunlight and leave this place alone. I dont care how much he threatens me, he can do what he pleases. Hacking is illegal. I have proof that he threated to do it to me. If it happens, then i will go through to proper channels.

Don't you have something better to do? Like research what those little hairs are that you're getting down there? Get a life, leave us alone, you bring nothing to the forum but drama.

I don't care if he is your friend Mark. I'm not a kiss ass like a lot of people on here.

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don't know what to do about him...i have respect for anyone that can hack, it really isn't too easy...
btw, welcome back sno.
Thank you, thank you. It turns out it wasn't actually for serious.
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I honestly don't know as much about the whole story as I would like to, but what I think I know makes me shudder at the thought of getting on the wrong side of a guy like Avanters. He is obviously very talented, regardless of what anyone can say about him not having a life, it goes the same way for anybody who wants to be the best at anything: you spend your free time practicing, studying, learning to become better than you were. It takes a lot of time and work to achieve that level of mastery of anything.

The thing that frightens me is the extent to which the world relies on computers, and how powerless most of us are when something goes wrong. We need people like Avanters to be doing the right thing in these situations, and not destructive things like what has occurred here.
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Old November 3rd, 2004, 09:59 AM   #24 (permalink)
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if you arent sure what happened, avantars threatened to hack us because we banned him. He felt that he is above the rules, and since he knows how to hack, we should get on our knees for him. We basically said to him "go f yourself" and then we anticipated a hack which isnt a big deal because we have all the important stuff saved. Then superman mark came in and saved the forum
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don't know what to do about him...i have respect for anyone that can hack, it really isn't too easy...
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Running through holes someone put in place when they were a mod isn't hacking.. or cracking. It's showmanship designed to make him look like a hacker when in reality he couldn't **** with any site he didn't mod at some point.

99.9% of the people who call themselves hackers are at best lame kids running a script they pasted from any of the security sites.
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