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Old October 21st, 2011, 07:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My modded Spyder venturi bolt

Bored the other day and after reading that everybody removes the internals of the venturi bolt, I decided to do it differently for a change.

Instead of removing completely the internals fins, I reduced and improved the size of them.










I know there is still room for improvement by smoothing out and polishing more, but its good for me for now.

I did not chrono before and after, but I noticed more consistency and better groupings. I could shoot with any barrel be it ported or not, and crank the velocity without worrying about the balls disintegrating when coming out the barrel.

The fins have to much restriction, gave it more angle to the fins, smoothed out all the edges and trimmed it as much as I could.

It seems to flow pressure more evenly, does not seem to be a shock for the paintball when it gets that shot of pressurized air.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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if your lightnening the bolt, then you are allowing it to hit the paintball harder than before.....so dont think this is going to be a magic mod that means you will never break paint, in all honestly its making the bolt hit the paint harder
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Old October 21st, 2011, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I did not touch the bolt at all, only the fins.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 01:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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But the venturi is in the bolt
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Old October 21st, 2011, 02:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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on a side note i really find it funny all the bolts that are labeled as venturi now a days, anyone know what a venturi effect actually is?
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Old October 21st, 2011, 04:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Didn't you get the memo? Venturi bolts are cool again.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 06:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is it not the increase of speed of the air (fluid) due to the constriction of tube size?

Something like that I think
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Old October 21st, 2011, 06:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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close, basically lets say you have a 1" tube that CO2 is flowing through, if you constrict that CO2 down to a 1/4 inch in one portion and then drill a hole right after that, air will actually be sucked into the hole and flow out the end of the tube with the CO2, but there is no extra air coming into these bolts, they are just flowing the air that is given to them so really its not a venturi effect at all. just fancy marketing with big words that nobody knows what they mean

(CO2 and air used just to differentiate the two flows)
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 06:31 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Am I getting flamed here?

It was labeled as venturi as thats how is it called everywhere online be it manuals, sales, tutorials, etc. The bolt is light, but not as light when been removed.



I will do this, I got both bolts with, without and modded venturi. Do some chrono testing keeping all other variables like co2 or hpa, same gun, paintball choice, wind conditions etc.

At end of the day is a restriction in the path, similar to nitrous system jets or "needles".
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You're not getting flamed, we're just letting you know that it has been extensively tested before, and the best results come from completely removing the venturi.

OttersSCCustoms had all the data, not sure if the website is still up though
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Old October 22nd, 2011, 06:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It has been tested removing it completely between the higly restrictive fins and nothing at all, but not reduced thinned out.


I got another one in stock form which I will remove 3 fins and reduced the other ones and perform tests between them. IMO I did notice the difference, better grouping, nicer linear path. I know these are old guns. I got a basically stock on internals besides reg and barrel and a custom body which I use on the field.

Sometimes people play with stock 98s and I grab the vintage ones to have some fun.

The Imagine and the EXT PRO PMI have some sort of "venturi" bolt (and also the ION). Those have some sort of controlled output that are less restrictive than the one w/ the fins in it.

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If you can get quantifiable data from a repeatable test, then I'll be impressed

Chrono, use the same paint, use the same marker, just swap out the bolts with different venturi designs (to include stock and empty), and mount the marker so it doesn't move
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you wont see a difference in accuracy, either way the marker is still slamming a valve open to fire, while a lighter bolt may mean less kick once in your hands its doing nothing to make the paint fly straighter
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Old October 26th, 2011, 10:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Your reply is as good as mine, without any factual info its just another respectful opinion. I will anyway test my theory. Right now I am going through an injury which prevents me on doing the tests, but will do so if one of my friends has time to help me out.

Another reason I like the mod is I can use cheaper paint without having to worry about pballs breaking in mid air.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Another reason I like the mod is I can use cheaper paint without having to worry about pballs breaking in mid air.
generally you will find that the most expensive paint is the most brittle, the low end paint has a thicker shell and is harder to break.
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