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Old August 12th, 2016, 12:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Ethan problems :(

So I went to the field to use my etha for the second time and when I aired it up the air vented down the barrel as soon as I gassed it up..

I looked in the manual and saw the fault, and replaced 009 NBR70 o-ring on the bolt which stopped the leak, but then my solenoid wasn't clicking anymore after..

I checked the manual again and saw the error in there as well and replaced the batter which.. sorta fixed it

Upon turning the marker on (No air tank attached), the solenoid will click once like its supposed to, but then it will click but sounds very muffled and can barely be heard.
When the gun is gassed up, the solenoid will release air but the marker will not fire.. If that makes sense

So i completely took the bolt apart and re-greased it and tried again, but still no luck

If anyone has any suggestions, or knows whats wrong, please let me know!

Thank you!

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Old August 12th, 2016, 04:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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PE has done a great job with manuals that's for sure. A complete novice such as yourself was able to diagnose and fix a problem!

What sort of lube did you use, and how much did you use? I'm betting that you either over lubed it or did not lube it enough.
You're 100% that you put everything back together correctly?
You could also be out of air. That's a problem we've all had, while troubleshooting.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 05:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I used the PE grease that was supplied with my etha.. I'm pretty sure that I put back together right, Ive taken it apart many times.

I'm not sure how much or how little i'm supposed to use.. So i could be that I used to much.. or to little

My tank is sitting just above 1000 psi.. so idk if that is the issue or not.

Im sending it in to the shop where I bought it from, but I was hoping someone here would know whats wrong

Do you think the solenoid is a problem?
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Old August 12th, 2016, 06:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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on a brand new gun? I'm extremely doubtful of it being a solenoid problem.
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Old August 12th, 2016, 07:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ive had it for about a year, but I don't have a chance to play because I have to travel to another country to play haha (Germany to Belgium)
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Old August 12th, 2016, 07:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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to be fair, i'm not sure how you lube one, either. Spool valve guns are not my forté
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Old August 12th, 2016, 07:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think the best thing to do at this point is to send it in and see what they have to say about..
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Old August 13th, 2016, 07:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm pretty good with spools, since it's in the shop it's kind of a moot point now but I would get your tank filled, the gauges on tanks are not the most accurate they are there to more give you a rough idea of how much air is on the tank. But this sounds more like a battery issue to me, did you use a name brand brand new 9v? Markers take a lot of juice if you did something like take that battery out of a smoke detector or remote control the battery may be just fine for whatever it was in but won't be able to supply enough juice for the marker.


When it is aired up, what do you mean by it will release air but won't fire? Will the bolt cycle?
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Old August 13th, 2016, 11:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I just replaced my battery with a Duracell 9v, which I've used before and has worked fine. I don't think its the battery since I just put a brand new one in it.

No, the bolt does not cycle when aired up but the solenoid is working like it should
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Old August 13th, 2016, 04:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sounds like your regulator is set to low, either that or the dwell setting on the board got adjusted down. Busy open that manual and reset both to factory settings
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I just turned my velocity up and that didn't work..

I also reset the whole board, but that wasn't the problem either..
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Old August 13th, 2016, 06:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Just to clarify something, it was leaking AND firing, but then you replaced the 009 o ring on the bolt and it stopped leaking but also stopped firing right?
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Yes it was leaking, but it wasn't firing at all, bolt wasn't cycling.. and yes after i replaced the o-ring, no leaks but the gun still wouldn't fire
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Old August 14th, 2016, 09:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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What color does the light on the board flash when you turn it on? It should be blue when you first turn it on but what colors does it go through after that?


OK, a few things to try, make sure you have not lost the poppet spring somewhere along the line(look in your manual, it's near the back cap) that could easily cause your issues. You may want to just do a full rebuild on the bolt, replace all the o rings, a swollen one could be causing your issues but you would never be able to see that by eye. I would make sure this is not a regulator issue by taking the regulator off of the marker and turning your air on very slowly, make sure air is getting through the regulator. If it is maybe try turning your pressure down, it's a long shot but over pressure can sometimes cause issues as well .
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It starts with a solid green, the flashes yellow, the only time it flashes blue is if the eyes are off, or when the eyes are on and there is a ball in the breach..

Ill get back to you after I've tried your suggestions..

I have a springless poppet in my gun, so a spring can't be a problem
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Old August 14th, 2016, 11:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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the etek is a poppet valve? what?

*I should mention that i've never even seen a gtek before.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 11:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think pe calls it a poppet but in all honesty, it's a spool, there is no poppet face anywhere in the design and there is even a few parts labeled as spool in the parts.

Etha is also a spool, if you look at the 2 designs side by side they really are different though, gtek has very little movement to release air out the valve so I can see why they are trying to sell it as a poppet.

I think you are confused, this post started when you asked for help on your etha which has a few springs in the design but now you are saying it is a spring less design which would be the gtek.... Kind of, even it has a spring in the bolt system, look in your manual towards the rear of the bolt, in front of the back cap

That aside I'm pretty sure I figured out what is going on.... The eyes are still on when he is testing it, it won't fire because there is no ball in the beach. Turn the eyes off and it should dry fire

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I'm thinking that you're right, except that he says he can hear the solenoid activating. It could be mistaken for the sound of a microswitch, perhaps.
I think that at some time, everyone has this problem due to ignorance, or just plan forgetfulness.

In fact, yesterday I was testing a gun out, and the velocity suddenly dropped, then it quit shooting. I suspect all sorts of issues, but it turned out that I had turned off the air supply.... whoops.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 11:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Lol yup, I've done that, ran out of air and thought something was wrong with the marker.

And ya, I'm thinking he is confusing the sound of the switch for the noid, the board is definitely telling him the eyes are one but there is nothing in the beach
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Old August 15th, 2016, 12:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Planet Eclipse Etha Spring-less Firing Poppet
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IGzR8y0JT_w/maxresdefault.jpg
This here is the poppet thats in my gun..

I've tried both (eyes off/on) but nothing happens, and I'm 100% sure that the solenoid is not clicking, I can hear the micro switch when the gun is turned off and thats the only thing I hear when the gun is turned on as well.
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Old August 15th, 2016, 03:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ah, so now the solenoid is defiantly NOT activating?
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Old August 15th, 2016, 04:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old August 15th, 2016, 09:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Ya pe calls it a poppet but likewise I can call my truck a v8 but that doesn't mean that is what's under the hood.

Before you go spending money on a noid, I can tell you from experience that every one of us has thought at some point that or issues were caused by a bad noid and it wasn't (I spent $200 on a parts kit mainly because it had a new noid in it and turns out that wasn't the issue) so if I were in your shoes I would first take it out and clean it really well, make sure it's not loaded up with grease or anything, check the wires for sure, a simple wire short could be your issue. While it's out I would also plug it into the board and see if it does anything different

Next try really really hard to find someone else with a etha and swap the noid into yours, do your research, gtek and e1 MAY have the same noid so you might be able to use that as well
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Old August 15th, 2016, 10:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Here, this is a good resource, etha is listed as a

spool valve bolt - blowforward

In a nutshell, if it uses an o ring as a main valve seal, it's a spool valve, if it uses a poppet face as a valve seal, it's a poppet, look at the etek or ego platforms for a good classic example of a poppet, mini/axe for a slightly unconventional poppet

http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/animations.html
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I just sent my gun in, ill post an update whenever I know whats wrong
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