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Old April 29th, 2006, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Double feeding & chopping Phantom

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I had taken my Phantom out to the range today for the first time. I finally shot the legendary Phantom...CRACK. A ball chopped. I tried: using two different kinds of paint (Evil and Draxxus Scorch), pumping the arm lowly and quickly, pumping while holding the marker at different angles, but the Phantom continued to shoot two balls or chopping and having to clean out the feed tube and internals. Has anyone else run into this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old April 29th, 2006, 12:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it is your tank.That happened to my Custom Pro before.I put a new tank on, and it worked right then.

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Old April 29th, 2006, 05:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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doube feeding and chopping is usually a problem with the ball detents
put one ball in the breach and see if it rolls out. if it does, then theres something wrong with the detents, if it stays, then i cant help you.
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Old April 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't think the Phantom has a built-in ball detent. I was using CCI Detent rings. I tried shooting the Phantom with the small and large ring sizes, but both had the same result. I'll try the large ones next Saturday and post the results.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 10:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I just got my phantom in today and shot some new scorch paint just to have somethig to shoot, and although I didnt chop any balls I did get alot of dual feeds.
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Old May 4th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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There are detent rings for the phantom -- cost about $5 for a set. Get those and you will never have a problem again. Or if you know someone good at milling, they can tap the side for traditional detents. But try the rings first.. its cheaper and they work.





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Old May 4th, 2006, 10:32 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ok I am a complete newb, what do those do and where do they go?
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Old May 4th, 2006, 02:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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They go just past the barrel threads and sit on the edge of the breech. They stop double feeding. To put them on you take off your barrel, slide it in and screw on your barrel.
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Ok awesome thanks alot
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Old May 4th, 2006, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Also, you will tend to chop and double feed until you get the pump stroke down. Just practice pumping it quick with a snap of the wrist, this will also help break in the pumpstroke.
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yea I was wondering about that, it is kinda tight, is that something that will relax with time?
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Old May 4th, 2006, 11:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah, put some vaseline in the groove of the trigger frame where the pump arm goes. helps alot.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 11:31 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Sorry its been so long since an update. I called Mike over at CCI after I tried shooting with the detent rings with mixed results. He recommends using Marballizer paint, which I have read elsewhere is "made for the marker." I'm now waiting for a shipment. I hope this helps anyone with problems.
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Sorry to say it, but if your still having problems, somethings wrong with you or your paint. Phantoms are, well, damn near perfect.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 12:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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marbs are only good because they are a bigger bore ball. Another thing that can help out out if you are wanting to spend the money is buying a freak kit. Not only does the phreak give you a type of detent seeing as you can bore down to a smaller size it also makes it so that you are shooting the right barrel for the paint. Don't forget stock barrels are also very large bore. I had the EDGE barrel kit on mine and actually liked that more than the smart parts system. Its cheaper and i used it on all of my guns.

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How about a Hammerhead Torpedo barrel w/ fins? Has anyone given that a try?
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