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View Poll Results: what you think about it?

sounds cool 10 43.48%
wouldn't work 1 4.35%
sucky 0 0%
might work, but you have to wait long, tis be boring 6 26.09%
there is no sniping in paintball 3 13.04%
first you have to get a 21" barrel. then a scope, bipod, a stock, and a silencer. then your set 3 13.04%
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Old July 1st, 2004, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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sniping at scenarios

now I know the first thing you want to do is tell me there is no sniping in paintball and direct me to these other threads and crap. but by sniping i don't mean put a bipod and scope on my gun and shoot at people from really far away.

i mean put on a ghillie suit, sit in one shot, wait till people are walking by super close, and just shoot the first guy. then they all are like. "who shot me?" then when they aren't looking near you, you shoot another guy. then suddenly they realize it. "sniper! sniper!" they scream and run for cover. they still don't ahve a clue where you are.

i started liking this idea after reading something about sniping in apg. my friend has a ghillie suit, and i'm probably oding a scenario this winter.
what do you think about the idea?
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Old July 1st, 2004, 10:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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If "sniping" is for you go for it, play what ever way allows you to have the most fun. I think with a pump though that since your gear is so light that it is better to be a mobile player constantly flanking the oposing team.
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 06:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Well there is just one thing wrong...

They wont go:sniper! sniper!" and run for cover.

They will however go: Mine Mine.... And start painting your hidden butt yellow, blue and about any other coulor there can com out of a ball or your body
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 11:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I believe in sniping insofar as it means shooting from a hidden position, and I even think that it's possible to pull off some long range shots with a little bit of luck, but more often the case is going to be that they're close enough to spot you and then you're going to be in a firefight. If you're shooting from a hidden position and drop one without being spotted, I'd stay hidden. If they haven't spotted you, they're going to be looking for that second shot. The chances of them seeing a completely unexpected shot are slim, but if they're lookin for it, chances are you're not going to get away with it. Excercise patience and sit it out. When they move on, stalk them and pop another one when the opportunity presents itself. Pulling off one-shotters with a good pump and paint-to-barrel match shouldn't be a problem at all.
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 12:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i dont know about you, but when im with either a group or by myself, once i hear a shot, i know pretty much exactly where it came from.. i mean paintball guns arent really the quietest things in the world.. usually when i hear the shot i have good enough reaction time to turn and see the person before me and they get down.

not braging, its jsut how i play.. so youd have to do as much damage as kick as you can.. and when im with a group and one of my team mates gets hit. i get down right away, i dont stay standing and ask other members if they seen anything.. mind you ive seen other groups of players do this, there was a large group bout 6 standing there, i took a shot but missed, they jsut stood there and asked eachother if they heard that shot or not, giving my time to line up agian.. then 2 of them wanted to be the heros and are like i heard it over here (going in the wrong direction) and i lit them up huge.. then the team had no idea and ran...

so basically this only works against newbs and groups of newbs.. so if you are playing against goood players or a good player mixed with newbs, good luck.. i usually take control of my team and the newbs learn quick and other more experienced players, learn quick to fallow my command, so had i been in the group that i attacked, it wouldnt have worked that way at all...

basically, if you wanna do this. you cant be sitting around, you have to be running and getting better angles.. ive completely flanked a group that was shooting at me and snuck up behind when they though they had me pined down.. that was a lot more successful then taking a couple semi shooters on head first and jsut staying there.. camping and waiting is not good, you need to be on the move and once you see them, then get into position...

if you like sitting around waiting htough, go for it, its paintball, susposed to be fun, so go ahead. but some times its not too practical.

also while im on the topic, just because you arent shooting semi doesnt mean you cant take advantage of people shooting semi. Team mates with semis are great. i get them to cover fire while i run up and bunker them, in the woods. or i get them to cover lanes and distract a side as i move. they are great help.

so going alone sometimes isnt that great. i used to go solo all the time, but then i found its much better to never stray too far from the pack..
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 03:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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D Smalls has a good point there, getting position is key. I've used tactics similar to what he was describing in having a friend with a semi hold a position and keep them occupied. I actually crawled away from the position, then got up and trotted around behind them. I took the first two without firing. I crept up and touched them both on the shoulder, then sat between them and popped the other two that were trying to get at my buddy who was hunkered down in some brush. Two to four, we win. Of course, those guys were pretty newbish.
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 06:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I play "Sniper" all the time. Notice "Sniper" is in quotes. We all agree that its not exactly what they do in the military, but it is a legitimate style of paintball that is similar enough to deserve the title.

As D_Smalls correctly noted, it is almost always a BAD style, and usually does more harm then good. But, with carefull planning, you can do it successfully.

When I play large scenerio games, I will always go alone, with a decent 3/D suit. Traditional sniping is useless, so instead I will carefully locate positions where I can do the most damage, AND have a great route of escape.

For example, favorite places are at the top of LONG, NARROW paths, edged by thick brush. I will dig myself INTO the brush, and wait for a large group TO PASS ME BY. Once they are walking down the path, I will light them up with 100-150 rounds.
For about 15 seconds, there is COMPLETE CHAOS. Nobody knows where to run, and fire blindly at first.
After 15 seconds, I ALWAYS LEAVE QUICKLY and relocate to a PRE-PLANNED location. 15 seconds is the magic number. By then, people know where you are, and will be reorganizing the team for a counterattack.

Obviously, this takes MUCH more planning then a typical newbie is capable of doing.
You need to be able to:
1- Look at a field and know exactly where most players will go. This takes experience.
2- Have the balls to leave a large group of 20-30 WALK RIGHT PAST YOU. Very important!!
3- Have enough control to walk away after 15 seconds, even though you "know you could get them all".

Ultimatly, its still a bad tactic. I like to do it BECAUSE ITS HARDER.

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Old July 2nd, 2004, 06:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah, when youre playing pump and a big group like that goes by.. you have to have the balls to let them go and leave them alone.. lets face it, they're a group of sayy 5-10 guys with semi, your one with pump.. youre not gonna do much damage.. when this happens to me, i might take 2-5 shots then run like hell outta there... or take no shots and run like hell back to my team and tell them where the enemy is so we can then make a move as a unit.
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Old July 2nd, 2004, 08:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Your right.

Its more accurate to say I "ambush" people, using stealth and planning. I prefer using the term "sniper" for no other reason that is seems to really annoy people!

For this, I need a semi to get the maximum number of people within the minimum amount of time.
Back when s ilencers would "legal", I used a pump, with entirely different tactics since it WAS completely possible to have a silent gun.

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Old July 3rd, 2004, 06:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Did your friend buy the ghillie suit or make it? Bought ghillies are useless. Get MARPAT.
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Old July 3rd, 2004, 08:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I thnk military-style ghillie suits are useless for paintball. They are NOT legal at most fields, and are simply too hot.

I've been using those real-tree 3/D turkey suits since 1997, and they work fantastic. The silk leaves are attached to a mesh, so its very COOL

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Old July 3rd, 2004, 02:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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it's not tht great of a ghillie suit he has, it was boughten. it's a brush ghillie suit though, not bush. so it's more yellowish in color, and not green at all.. but my local field has quite a bit of spots with just tons of weeds and brush, so i could lay in there. I've used his before at his grandpa's house though, it was 2 vs. 1 and i was the sniper, it worked pretty well. If i liked using it, i might get my own, better one. but i would use mobility, and try, using the ghillie suit for cover, get far into enemy territory to maybe even take out some key players. I use a walkie talkey with a phone headset if i play in a scenario so i could also do recon.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 11:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Paintball is simply war games if ya want to snipe go for it. What you think in acually combat the enemy is not going to use snipers, if you think that them maybe this game isn't for you ( i own my own guilie suit....Canadian military ) All this does (sniping) is make the game more real and keeps ur sences up and sharp....the ones that are complaining are the ones who keep dieing i think...just grow up and get over it...
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Old May 29th, 2007, 03:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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kinda old post. anyways i got over the whole sniping in paintball and thinking people would actually not know where i was and i would pawn all. pretty much just play speedball now. if i want to play woodsball i take out my airsoft gun.
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