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Old October 4th, 2004, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I compiled this amount of information to answer many questions about CCI Phantoms. I hope this thread can help you with your Phantom questions. If anyone has anything they would like to add, feel free.

Basics of a CCI Phantom

Components Concepts, Inc. (CCI) has made many different types of Phantoms, them being the 1011-00 Phantom, the 1011-45-00 w/ 45 Phantom, the 1011-50-00 Phantom Bottom Line, the 1011-45-50-00 w/45 Phantom Bottom Line, the 1011-V-00 Phantom Vertical Air, the 1011-V-45-00 Phantom w/45 Vertical Air, the 2011-00 Phantom SC, the 2011-45-00 Phantom SC w/45, the 2011-V-00 Phantom SC Vertical Air, and the 2011-V-45-00 Phantom SC w/45 Vertical Air. What makes each of these different is the feed source, the way the air source is attached to the gun, and trigger frame. Phantoms are pump markers, meaning you have to pull the pump all the way back and all the way forth before each shot. Certain kinds of Phantoms use 10-15 round feed tubes as a paintball souce, others use hoppers.

What is Stock Class?

This does have nothing to do with Phantoms, but pump guns in general. You will also hear this term often threw-out this article. What stock class is, is when you use a pump gun but instead of using a constant air (CA) source, you use those little 12 gram CO2 (that can not be re-filled), and instead of using a hopper you use a feed tube, that holds 10-15 rounds. This puts you at a bigger disadvantage, being that you have to reload both your feed tube and switch the 12 gram CO2 more often. A advantage to this is that you now have a lighter and smaller profile. In return, your adrenalin will rise, making the game more fun.

Reloading While Playing Stock Class

To reload, when using the 10-15 round feed tubes, you have to use 10 round pods and push it past the ball retainer in the back of the feed tube. The ball retainer is the black, three prong device in the back of the feed tube. Also, when pumping your marker be sure that you tilt your gun somewhat forward so the paintball is on top of the bolt (when closed), and not in the back of the feed tube.

Where and How Do I Attach the 12 gram CO2?

When playing stock class, you will notice that you can barely the see the 12 gram CO2. This is because you slip the 12 gram CO2 in the stock housing, which can be found where the foregrip usually is or in the back, below the feed tube. After you put the 12 gram CO2 in the stock housing, you screw it in to the puncture pin, which will break the end of the 12 gram CO2, and allow the CO2 to flow throughout the marker. When you unscrew the stock housing, expect some CO2 to spray out if the CO2 tank is not completely empty, because of this do not expose the excess CO2 to a open wound.


Are Phantoms Effiecent?

Yes, I was rather suprised when I got about 45 shots off my stock Phantom, when using a 12 gram CO2. Untill 45+ shots I did not notice any performance difference. Some of the reason is there is no pressure needed to re-cock the gun, because that is what the pumping action does.

Are Phantoms Consistant?

Yes, even though I have yet to shoot my Phantom over a chrono, I heard that they get +5,-5, making regulators useless. Yes, you could hook a regulator to your Phantom, all you have to do is remove your stock housing and the puncture pin. Like I said above, a regulator is useless how-ever because of the amazing consistantcy.

How Do You Adjust The Velocity?


To adjust the velocity you stick the tool that came with your Phantom, it is about 1 1/2 ft long and is similar to a flat head screw driver, so if you do not have one of these tools you can use a flat head screw driver, if you can find one long enough. To increase the velocity, turn it clockwise. To decrease it, turn it counter clock wise. A good way to remember this is because when you screw something inward you increase the velocity.


What Advantages Does A SC Phantom Have Over A VSC Phantom?

The VSC Phantom, also known as the 2011-V-00 Phantom SC Vertical Air or2011-V-45-00 Phantom SC w/45 Vertical Air, has the stock housing, where the foregrip would go. This puts the the CO2 facing completely up which, in theory, keeps all the liquid CO2 at the bottom of the tank, and only allowing the gas CO2 into the marker. You can also place your hand on the stock housing during a game to make a smaller profile, but at most points your hand will be on the pump. The SC, also know as the 2011-00 Phantom SC or 2011-45-00 Phantom SC w/45, has the stock housing at an angle, but the angle is not as sharp.

What Is The Difference Between a SC and VSC Phantom?
The difference between a SC and VSC Phantom is where the stock housing is located. The stock housing is where the 12 gram CO2 is put in. On a SC the stock housing is below the feed tube, slanted in a downward position at about a 15* angle. On a VSC the stock housing is where the foregrip/regulator would be on most guns. It is in a near 90* angle with the bottom of the CO2 catridge facing down. SC stands for stock class, while VSC stands for vertical stock class.


Maintenence


So, you just got your new CCI Phantom from the store or the delivery truck just dropped it off and you test fired it. Thing is, you want to keep your new Phantom running nice. To do this you must properly maintain it. This is not hard and I can do this in about 5 minutes. First, make sure your gun is de-gassed, un-cocked, and has no paintballs in it. Then take off your barrel becuase it makes everything flow a lot better. It might be wise to lay all the parts on a cloth or someplace you will not lose them.


Now for the interesting part, to take it completely apart. Next unscrew the front thumbscrew (it is above the stock housing if you have a VSC). Then partially take out the back thumbscrew, this one does not need to fully taken out. The top tube should slide off the trigger frame.


The pump arm should slide out of the bolt, if it does not then you should do so. After you have done this carefully tilt back the chamber and let the internals slip into your hands. Lay the bolt, spring, and hammer down on a rag and scrub off all the old lube from the bolt and hammer.



Then put a few drops of oil on your finger and scrub the bolt and hammer with it. You might want to use a q-tip to get the hard to reach places. Make sure to oil the o-ring on the bolt throughly.


Then spray a squegge with a 50-50 of water and rubbing achol threw the breech, this will clean out all foreigen debris. Then get a clean, dry squegge and run it threw the breech. This will take away all the liquids and what-not so your gun will work better.


Next you have to put the internals back in. The bolt goes in first with the black o-ring facing to where the barrel would go. Then slide in the spring. Last but not least put in the hammer. Remember, the spring goes in the big hole so the big hole should face forward. The hole in the side of the bolt, where the pump arm goes, should be facing down. Then put in the pump arm, I find it easier if I put on the pump arm and then put on the barrel so the pump arm stays in place.


Then slide the the body onto the trigger frame and screw in the thumb screws. After you are done with this you can take off your stock housing, and then get a 3/8 allen key and stick it in the puncture adapter. Unscrew the puncture adapter, put a few drops of oil in the vert ASA. Then screw in the puncture adapter, gas up your gun, unscrew your barrel, and fire your gun about 20-30 times.


The next step is purely cosmetic, and it is not needed. All you do is spray a rag with a 50-50 solution of water and rubbing achol and wipe down your marker with this. You can also squegge out the barrel if you have debris in it. If you do the steps above after every time you play your Phantom will love you and you will notice the results.



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ok, so which phantom do u prefer? out of all the makes. thanx
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Old October 10th, 2004, 12:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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with mikes work here anyone and i mean anyone could easly do everything on thier phantom. mike what would you sugest in lube?

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Exclamation Caution, CO2 May Cause Death...

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When you unscrew the stock housing, expect some CO2 to spray out if the CO2 tank is not completely empty, because of this do not expose the excess CO2 to a open wound.
What exactly is the reason for THAT?! That you shouldn't freeze your wounds? Or maybe you are worried about carbon dioxide 'poisoning' you or something? Or is this strictly a discomfort issue? A strange recommendation to make nonetheless...

Great post, by the way. Thanks a lot for your effort!!
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Old February 12th, 2005, 08:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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i just have one question...on a summary of the marker on a webtsite it said they are very accurate...are they more accurate then any other gun? or just as accurate? btw great post, im just getting into stock class and it looks like a lot of fun lol im working on buying a phantom lol my 3rd gun...this is when you know your a junkie lol
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i just have one question...are they more accurate then any other gun? or just as accurate?
Well, when you talk about paintball 'accuracy', you're really talking about consistency. Because of the relatively low velocity and large projectile size (as compared with, say, airsoft), you're going to have to lob at anything over 50 feet away. There's no real getting around that and there's no magical formula that's going to get you flat trajectory. Even the flatline doesn't work even 30% of the time and you still need to fire multiple shots to get one on your target.

However, consistency is a BIG help when shooting... If you know how your marker performs every time and can adjust accordingly for range, then you will be more 'accurate'. The Phantom, in particular (in my opinion) is very consistent. The tuned port compensator really helps cut down on ball spin and helps keep your balls from 'hooking'. The consistent velocity means that when shooting at range, your balls will end up in the same place every time. Are you going to be able to put your sights on a target, pull the trigger and have it instantly painted? No. You're still going to have to lob. But your lobs will be consistent... I assure you that if you're missing with the Phantom while using good paint, it's you who is not aiming.

One thing: carry a battle swab. Just in case. I've broken a few balls in the recent cold weather given that cheap paint gets very brittle in the cold. Phantoms don't shoot well at all with wet barrels. Then again, nothing really does...

As for you wanting to play stock class... is there another choice? Sure, there are other markers out there, but... I know MY choice...

Oh, and don't think you're a total junkie because you're only working on number three. (You're just on your way, that's all!) I've got over a dozen and many people I play with have 20+ markers. Why? *shrugs* Why not? Keep collecting, man. It's always nice to have options. More than that, loaning out spare equipment is a great way to make friends. Plus, everyone always appreciates generosity and everyone has a good time when everyone else is happy. Have you ever had a marker go down and had someone give you a loaner for the day? Have you ever loaned someone else equipment either to get them into the sport or as a temporary replacement for their downed equipment? It's the people who do that make the sport enjoyable. So despite what anyone might say, more markers really does equal more fun!!!

Plus, it's always great to keep your markers for a long time, pull out a total dinosaur and play a few rounds with it. I still have a splatmaster rapide that sees the field every once in a while. Yeah, I usually get my butt kicked if I use it (they take FOREVER to reload), but I play to have fun, not to win all the time. (Though on the occasions I DO goggle people with it, it feels great!)
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so i shouldnt pick one up if i dont play speedball? i do play speedball but no one else plays stock around here so it would be kind of pointless
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what lube should i use?
slick honey ok?
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http://www.bulldogpaintball.com/phantom.html

the gun second from the bottom, can it use a normal CO2 tank or do I HAVE to use twelve grams?
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Just to answer the last few questions posted here...

Speedball w/ Phantom: Really, your marker's not the big factor when it comes to your style of play. I'll play paintball in any way, shape or form, but I admit I prefer woodsball. The Phantom works just fine be it speedball, woodsball, airball, or what have you. The nice thing is that with different barrel lengths, stocks and positioning of the 12-gram changer, you can customize a Phantom exactly how you like to use it. I've played all styles with many, many markers and to me, the Phantom is the most versatile and adaptable. It's really an all-around marker. Lastly, just because nobody else plays stock-class, why does that make it pointless? Play stock anyhow...

Slick Honey: Well, that's a proprietary name and I have no idea what's in it, so I can't say. You do want to steer away from petroleum-based lubricants, though. WD-40, for example, is no good. Why? Petroleum products break down the rubber seals. That's why there's paper/cork gaskets (no rubber) on fuel systems. Synthetic lubricant is best and I personally use Gold Cup. It's cheap, works well and is super slick. Clean and oil after every time you play - no exceptions - and your marker will treat you well in return.

Rear 12-gr. changer: Yes. That's a screw-in 12-gr. changer just like on all the others that is removable to accept a constant air source. I know it's kinda hard to see. The only Phantom valve which MUST be run on 12-grams is a drop-out "bucket" changer.

Hope that helps. Good luck, fellas!
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Okay, I think that I'd like to buy a phantom pump. I was just wondering, from playing airsoft I have a bunch of little spray cans of 100% silicone lube. Would that be okay to use?
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What would i have to do in order to put a tank on a phantom? I'm thinking about running compressed air, any suggestions?
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