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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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homemade silencer

I play woodsball with a Tippman 98c w/ flatline. But everyone says how loud my gun is compared to the rentals (Pirrahnas and black maxx's) that everone else uses. Because of this when they hear me shoot the get down and cant be found (those pussys ) so I am wondering if anyone knows of a way to make a homemade silencer for my marker? I was thinking I could maybe do something with that little ported thing on the end of the flatline. (It just kinda twists off) like put some sort of tube around it and fill it w/ stuff?

Any ideas? (ANd please dont flame saying "oh you dont need silencers in paintball, its not the army, your not a sniper, blah blah blah...)
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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well tippmans are loud to begin with, what you need is a 32 degrees barrel, those barrels have so many ports on them, that they will quiet you bit a bunch.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I mean something I can put on my flatline. I dont wanna buy a new barrel after spending $150 for this one.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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uhm.... u could poke holes in ur flatline, but im not sure if u want to do thta or not.
another thing is, you can make a barrel extension with ports on it. but that might affect your performance.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Mostly loud cause it doesn't have porting.

Good luck. I wouldn't mess with it, really. If you drilled it to add ports (and I've thought of doing it), it'll probably ruin the inside and it'll just be a odd looking curved barrel with no advantage over a straight one.

What I was going to do was drill the bottom a little, where it's inside the hand grip, and put some fluff inside the grip. Cheap, but it could have worked a little. Like I said though, the chance of runing the barrel is pretty good compared to any benefit.

If you had something made to fit over the end, it would first off be illegal to own, and it'll probably snag on the balls and make them fly everywhere or just break them.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Here's an idea. Instead of porting the existing barrel. Make ur flatline a 2 piece. Put threads on the outside of the flatline, and have your extension/silencer screw on there.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 02:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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make a tube that can fit over the barrel. inside the tube, put a bunch of chambers with a hole in the center of them of .69-.70 caliber
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Old July 24th, 2005, 03:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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Get two inch PVC pipe, cut it to the right length, get some foam (the Flexible stuff, you can get it at a sewing store probably) Wrap the foam around your barrel, use masking tape to make it tight around it. Use enough that it will encompass the pvc, then just slide it over everything. If all goes well everything should be snug and not move. And there you go, a silencer. PS. Dont make it come any farther than the end of the barrel.

You might want to paint the PVC pipe black, then use some electrical tape (or black duct tape) and wrap it around the front of the silencer, just something to make it look better. Me and my Buddy did this, it worked alright.
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Old July 24th, 2005, 03:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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^ thats more common on barrels that have a **** load of porting, it might work on teh flatline, just not as well as it would on something like a 32* whisper
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Old July 25th, 2005, 12:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
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OK:

Put soft foam around your barrel inside the flatline barrel shroud. Fill it up.

4 to 5 inch long piece of PVC pipe, Large spring that is wider than your barrel. Drill a hole in two PVC Caps large enough for your barrel to go through, but not enough for it to slide off. Take your spring and superglue it (or mount it however) to one of these caps, so the hole in the spring lines up with the hole you drilled. Put this on your PVC pipe. This will be the front of your silencer. Fill the Pipe with sof foam around the spring. Put the other cap on. Secure it together. Thsi will go over your barrel. The spring keeps the foam out of the path of the ball (unless it curves a centimeter out of your barrel.

You are going to need to mount it to your barrel somehow. Either Duct Tape it, or you can dril a small hole in the side of the cap, and have a set screw to hold it onto the barrel.

Paint flat black (if you want). This and the foam inside the shroud will help. The bit with the spring allows you to have the PVC silencer not completely over your barrel, and you have some past your barrel. But because the spring is bonded to the hole in the cap (which is the size of your barrel and therefore lareger than a paintball), the foam will not hinder the path of the ball (if you made it right).
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Old July 25th, 2005, 08:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Be careful making it. Silencers, no matter what they are for require you to have a Class 3 FFL to purchase/own one. If you sell it or anyhing, make sure you always say it can't be used on a firearm. Law enforcement will take it seriously.

Use that expanding foam in a can stuff.

What I would do is take a crappy stock barrel and drill lots of ports in it, do what armo suggested and take it from there. Youalready spent a lot on the flatline, I wouldn't modify it unless you know what you're doing.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 09:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
 
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^ thats what i did to my stock dragunfire l.e.d. barrel. i used toilet paper as the foam, it was pretty effective. but pumps are the easiest guns to silence cause theres little to no mechanical noise (blowback)
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Old July 25th, 2005, 10:14 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Alpha, you seem like someone I could poke about this.

HP (or the HP on 'Nation at least) said that a paintball 'silencer' is legal if it is permenently attached (can not be removed at all) to the body of the gun, not just the barrel. Any thoughts? I'd bet a good deal that he wouldn't say anything unless he was sure he was right, but it's an interesting point to me.

The post also said that ported barrels were in the grey area between legal and not. We all know there's no shortage of those.
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http://www.fortliberty.org/military-...ilencers.shtml
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Old July 25th, 2005, 11:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Like alpha said, Firearm silencers require a Class 3 license. As far as I know there is a small loophole that a paintball marker is not a firearm (no explosion to propell projectile) and as long as the silencer can not be "converted" to be used on a firearm it is ok.

Then again, the ATF says that anything that can be converted into a firearm silencer is illegal (something to that effect).

So sorry guys, empty 2 Liter Coke bottle are illegal. So are towels, and potato as well.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 11:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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but but but... I DONT WANNA GIVE UP MY PILLOW< OR ROLL OF TOILET PAPAER!!!!!! there the only friends i got
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Old July 25th, 2005, 03:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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HP on the nation said that? HP Lovecraft? If its him I'd believe him. If not I'd challenge it. I mean if silencers that were attached to real guns permanently, we'd see tons of real guns made with non-detachable silencers.

Im not sure if federal law defines a marker as a firearm, but I know my state law does.

What would they do with rail guns?

And to clarify, in order to get a Class 3 license, you need to be a Firearms dealer
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RAIL GUN?!?!?! Alpha, were not trying to shoot through walls here, just trying to silence a marker. you scare me
this calls for a whiteboard comic!

:EDIT: look what i found!!!!
http://www.powerlabs.org/railgun.htm
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Old July 25th, 2005, 05:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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According to my state law, I could make a railgun that fires projectiles at any fire rate I want, and it will be legal.
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Old July 25th, 2005, 05:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Um, i don't know much about tippys but if you put a reg on there and got it to shoot at the lowest possible PSI then it would be alot quieter?
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Old July 25th, 2005, 05:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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check specopspaintball and theyll tell you all kinds of good stuff
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Old July 25th, 2005, 05:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Um, i don't know much about tippys but if you put a reg on there and got it to shoot at the lowest possible PSI then it would be alot quieter?
It still needs a low of pressure to blow back.

Specops paintball is a horrible site imo. They just feed to the "woo look at my ghillie suit im a sniper" hype. They say longer barrels are better too.
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^yeah, i saw that on there. it said something like they did extensive testing and proved that a super long barrel is more accurate.

but we all know that's true
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Old July 25th, 2005, 06:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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i wouldnt make a homemade one, i would never mess with the barrel, especially a 150 dollar one. Buy one, or go without. Trust me, its not THAT loud.......if you cant hear peoples rentals shooting then get a hearing test
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as far as I know, the only things that can be classified as a firearm, require an explosion to propell the round. (gunpowder for example). Gaust guns, and airguns, are not firearms (then again Mass. is one of those pinko commie uber liberal states so I can see where they got the idea that they were).
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