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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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which gun is right 4 me?

hey i want to know what is the best paintball gun for woods ball beside tippmann and the spyder TL-X 0?
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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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umm, tippmann is the best woodsball gun because of its durability. Most of its peices can be upgraded if you dont like anything about it.
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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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tippmann 98c is a great woodsball gun, so go for it
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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ya i just wanted to know wut other gun cuz i have the 98 costeum
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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i have a tlx it's really good
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Old July 18th, 2004, 10:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What setup u got on ur tippy? if its stock then get some ups 4 it.
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Old July 18th, 2004, 11:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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THEY ARE ALL WRONG ; the right answer is whichever one suits your style of play, is in your price range, and feels/looks the best to you, its personaly preference
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Old July 19th, 2004, 02:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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ya i ordered an halo tsa led electronic loader iam like a fast shoter with a simi auto gn so thats good 4 me and a flatline barrel
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Old July 19th, 2004, 01:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old July 19th, 2004, 06:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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I highly recomend getting a external velocity adjuster. They take the place of the rear endcap and allow you to adjust the tension on the drive spring. This is WAAY better, because 1, you can back out the velocity screw all the way and have a more consistent airflow through the gun, 2) it'll lower the amount of pressure being put on the ball by spreading it out, and 3) it'll increase the # of shots per tank, as each shot will use less air since the sriker wont be hitting the valve as hard. and last but not least 4) it'll obviously make the gun a whole lot easier to adjust. It's probably the best upgrade under $50 you can get for your gun.
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Old July 19th, 2004, 10:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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uh zonk0u it will also lose velocity if he reduces the pressure on the main spring you might want to tell him that too, which causes less accuracy and range.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 12:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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lol explain your logic. It wont lose range or acuracy. in fact acuracy will probaly improve since the air isnt being made turbulant by going around the velocity screw (it helped when I did it to mine). that's all that controls the velocity on a stock gun... just a stupid screw in the way.

by backing out that screw all the way, you allow for a straight path for the air to flow through. unscrewing the stock velocity screw will increase the velocity of the ball, so you turn the rear velocity adjuster down to compensate, which lightens the spring tension, which lessens the amount of force put on the striker, which hits the valve with less velocity releasing less air, and thus using less air to propell the ball the same distance.

Of course it's going to lose pressure, that's the whole point. you drop the pressure down, so you can run with the stock velocity screw all the way out. Once it's out, you adjust it from the rear either adding more or less tension to the drive spring which controls how much air the valve releases when the striker hits it with more or less force.

Im not sure how you think velocity or range factors into this. maybe you should retake physics. a gun chrono'd at 280 fps, is going to shoot the same distance regardless of how it's set up internally.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 05:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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98c is a good gun for woodsball.
Spyder Tl-X is a good gun for woodsball.

Both are equal in performance (upgraded spyder is alot better then a upgraded 98c though!), its just your personal preference. I like the spyder more better because its more compact and more upgrades available.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 10:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Tippmann doesn't have a lot of upgrades. They have cosmetic upgrades and wild upgrades, but seriously, how many trigger frames can you buy for it? How many bolts?

Stuff like the RT is nice, but teh same peoepl that flip out about saying you dont need a 15+BPS marker to play woodsball often have eframes adn RT's on their tippys.

Your looking to upgrade. Good. Sounds like your ready to move from your low-end gun to somethign a bit better. Go to a proshop and ask if you can hold, and maybe even fire one or two of their markers as your seriously interested in buying one. If your nice enough and the guy is nice enough you might luck out.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 12:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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To add a response with a little more ontopic subject matter.

I wouldn't waste your time or money on buying a spider when you've already got an m98.

the m98 is a good gun, and the spider is pretty much equal, if only marginally better. It sounds like you're ready to upgrade to something more serious like alpha was saying... but to be honnest I think buying a spider to replace a tippmann is like swapping pepsi for coke.

I'd suggest getting an automag or autococker. It's the next step up in terms of woodsball type guns... meaning it's still mechanical, and not over kill like an 30bps lcd angel. Look for one used. you can usually find them pretty cheap. If you're not all too mechanically inclined and dont like to tinker with guns to get them to work, then the autococker is not for you. The automag is such a simple design that it's pretty hard to foul up. There are countless upgrades for either gun, but both will require you to run HPA, because co2 will foul the o-rings and cause the guns vital internals to be very very unhappy. it's a fairly big investment, but worth it if you're serious about getting another gun.

if you're going to be spending the money "upgrading" you may as well get a gun that will be on a higher level, than one that is pretty much on the same level in terms of performance.

in my oppinion buying the spider would be a pointless waste of money, since you've already got a comparable gun. If you're sick of drinking cola, upgrade to something that you know is going to be better.

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Old July 20th, 2004, 02:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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what happens when you drop it?
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Old July 20th, 2004, 02:43 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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i say just stick with your tippy untill you feel like you want a smaller,lighter higher bps

or if you start playing speedball
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Old July 20th, 2004, 03:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
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But seriously, just keep playing with your stock gun, and practice, practice, practice. Or if you're set on getting another gun, go for Spyder Imagine.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 04:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Piranhas and automags are also great for woodsball and are probably better than the tippmann or the spyder in mech form.
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Old July 20th, 2004, 09:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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PIranhas are essentially spyders, just with slight differences in design.
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Old July 21st, 2004, 04:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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tippmans are ok but a flatline barrel can be a really bad hassle if you dont know what your doing so stick to the stock until you get some knowledge because i know a freind yesterday that was trying to fix his flat line and it took 4 of us and we still didnt get it tight it may give u a better shot but stick to the stock
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Old July 21st, 2004, 04:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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sorry alpha wrong post
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Old July 21st, 2004, 04:46 PM   #24 (permalink)
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tippmans are ok but a flatline barrel can be a really bad hassle if you dont know what your doing so stick to the stock until you get some knowledge because i know a freind yesterday that was trying to fix his flat line and it took 4 of us and we still didnt get it tight it may give u a better shot but stick to the stock


LOL! That was one long sentence! You couldn't get the adapter tightened? You must be a bunch of pansies! (just playin .)

The Flatline is a bit of a hassle, but it's not as bad as what some people may think. Couple drops of oil on the adapter will make it slip right in. The two main problems people have with their flatlines are:

1. Not having the adapter exactly vertical. (Causes balls to curve.)

2. Not having the barrel all the way in the adapter. (Causes loss of pressure in the shot, because air escapes through part of adapter.)

Bottom line is. Preference. Don't listen to just one side of the story. Ask around, because there are some people that flame anybody who says flatline, and there are others who swear by it. All it comes down to is preference, and how much tinkering you are willing to do.

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Old July 21st, 2004, 04:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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ITs cool... Look to the bottom left hand of your post.. You can hit edit and go back and change your post.. Instead of posting two times in a row, becuase people will get pissed.
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