ok i decided to make my own thread about this. i sent 40 dollars to fromurider at the beginning of the summer for proto pants and empire elbow pads. well a little after that he said he screwed up the adress and it got sent back and asked for my adress again. then he said he found a rip in the elbow pads and was giving me my money back. If you looked in the otheer thread about him he clearly states he planned to ship july 5th because he had had the cops called on him and all his stuff was closed. Well long story short its been three months now and no sign besides maybe somthing i got in my inbox that said "return mil delivery problems encountered. now people keep saying hes a good guy and will get it out so i have some hope but its been three months so i need 1 of 2 things. A: you send me the entire 40 dollars back, or, B:send the pants with the 20 dollars. option A would be fine i just dont like giving away my money.