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This is not to start a flame war by any means, I live in NY, Ive been to ground zero, what happened was horrible and I am a Bush supporter. http://jrgach.com/ But this guy from a rock radio station says that the government planned the attacks, "This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton(government insider) Who also claims that documents were taken from the FBI of his that regarded the fact that some of these hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They bring up the question of how their really wasent any plane debrit found at the Pentagon and that they think a missle was shot into it. That their were set explosives in the WTC towers on purpose to collapse it...... "But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. Pre-9/11 World Trade Center Power-Down On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." There are some interesting ideas but it still seems far fetched and seeing that one of the guys behind it is a lawyer with a $7 billion law suit against the government.........
 

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that guy is totaly reatarted....if he tried convincing me of that being tru i swear i would hit him.

what happend that day was a horrible tragity and to even suggest that the government planned to kill thier own people and destory one of the greatest buildings in the nation is so rediculous its not even comprehendible.

that guy is a ****en retard
 

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i hope people that say that the govt planned 9/11 just die of a stroke. I mean seriously, 3000 innocent people were killed, and you're accusing our own leaders of doing it.
 

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well we all know that everything on the internet is true :rolleyes:

what the **** would security cameras on the top floors do? a camera isn't going to do a damn thing when an airliner crashes into the building.

as brought up before, what about the families of the passengers of the plane that "didn't" crash into the pentagon? did the men in black erase their memories?

just because a dumbassed lawyer is bringing up some bull**** lawsuit doesn't prove anything, except that people are unbelieveably stupid.
 

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"yeah, lets kill over 3000 people, including government officials, destroy billions of dollars worth of property, make ourselves more vulnerable, and risk having someone leaking the fact that we attacked our own people"

do you realize that something like this would need such a mass coordination inside the government, that SOMEONE would have leaked it by now
 

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What I don't get is Clinton had an attack on a trade center when he was president, along with doing absoulutely nothing while millions were slaughtered in Rwanda, Never did anything to Iraq even though Saddam violated all of the UN sanctions and British no-fly zones and the cease-fire agreement etc.. And he just sat while 100,000 Iraqi children starved to death due to heavy sanctions against the Saddam regime. The only time he did anything in his 8 years was he bombed Iraq to direct attention away from what he was doing most of the time in those 8 years: messing around with Monica. Along with this he signed and supported the DMCA, did the whole chinagate thing, did the whole NAFTA thing, tried to screw the 2nd amendment, travelgate, THE LIST JUST GOES ON FOREVER!!!

Yet he get's no where near as much flak as Bush. It really is sad how dumb America seams to be these days.
 

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clinton didn't have a motive. his dad didn't fail at getting saddam.

I'm glad clinton didn't mes with other countries/continents. I believe in dealing with the problems here before spending millions elsewhere
 

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Clinton was praised because the economy grew so much and people had $$$ in there pockets. The media liked him and didnt report the negative unlike with Bush where over 60% is negative and has been increasing with the election coming up.
 

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I dont care if the government planned it. I dont care if were in this war for oil. I dont care if Al Queda had nothign or everythign to do with Iraq.

I care about war-torn countries being oppressed by hard leadership. I dont care if the government gassed 500,000 people. That still doesn't mean the war in Afghanistan or in iraq is any less justified. Has nothign to dow ith it.
 

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The economy being good during clinton's election had nothing to do with anything he did. During the first election he said he had all the plans he was going to have to get the economy back. But as he got into office, the economy already went back up because of reagen and bush, so he was like, "Oh, the economy worked itself back into order, guess we don't need these plans now."

And along with all the crap he did while in office like sending most of our industry and agriculture overseas, it set up a fall for no matter who was the next president. And it doesn't help that 9/11 happened, we've had to fight 2 wars, and that the economy goes down every other 2 terms, on top of the fall that clinton set into action.
 

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clinton didn't have a motive. his dad didn't fail at getting saddam.

I'm glad clinton didn't mes with other countries/continents. I believe in dealing with the problems here before spending millions elsewhere
id rather we spend money going after terrorists that want to kill us.
 

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i must say that the world is powered by greed and corruption nowadays, no matter who you are. corruption and greed is everywhere. So, it isn't entirely impossible.

BUT i don't believe the government did it. it's irrational. it's stupid. i could go on and on, but it's me against everyone else on pbf (i still hate bush, but also hate kerry, so either way i must be wrong). i could give reasons for both sides of the arguement, but i still think that bu$h had nothing to do with it.
 

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ya i wouldnt belive the site... we just went through a credible site lesson in class today and on my checklist its all NO's

Oh and bont belive everythin you see like Matty said
 

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This is really dumb...Why would our president even think about killing his own citizens.Whoever stated this is am absolute asshat and needs to be hanged...
 

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you guys are telling us not to believe everything we hear? Seems like you guys are believing everything the media says. You're all hypocrites and you need to wake up a little. You all saw the pentagon site thing, now whats your stupid excuse that its not true?
 
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