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Waste of a post. Either way I have shot one and it is AMAZING!. Def. a good gun and an Ego killer to boot.
 

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To bad alien isn't big enough to compete with eclipse. I'd like to shoot one though.
True, but the Aliens do (IMO) shoot nicer than an Ego. The only thing I hate is the frames. HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable for me. I downright hate them. Well, I did like 2 seasons ago when I last shot an Alien, but I don't think they've changed anything major on the frames since then, so I probably still would.

If anyone is interested in them, they have a thing (not sure how long it'll last) that for a minimal usage fee, they'll send you an 09 Independence to try before you decide if you want to buy one: http://alienpb.com/guns/try.php
 

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As far as the frames on the 08's they offered an 85* frame (what I have on mine) and a 45, not for sure which one you got to use Miller. They only offer 45's on the newer models, I really hope everything keeps going well for them. I bought my 08 last season when they were no longer selling them on there site, talked to Jack Rice and he hooked me up with one of his own with a warranted on down.
 

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Ahh, I'm quite fond of the one I've got. The 08's can be had for pretty darn cheap now, not for sure about the 09's. The 09's work on a much lower operating pressure, and they clean up some lines on it. Overall I like mine, not planning on whoring it out anytime in the near future.
 

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The 9/10's are pretty much identical, had jack rice himself told me that when I got mine. Yeah, a guy at one of the fields I go to has a platinum 09, new it would have looked amazing yet with all the scratches its hideous. This one looks pretty clean :09 Alien Independence - PbNation

Not for sure on what they should be going for price wise.
 

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Hehe, that's the one I was actually referring to as far as the hideous. That's the ugliest red I think I've ever seen on a paintball marker in my life. But yeah, that's the price that 90 Indy's generally go for. All the clear ones that I find guys are asking nearly $700 for still (and they're not exactly pretty), and all the other colors sell too quickly.
 
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