[mt-jt_is-crazy]

*caugh xshotmanx needs some friends *caugh

 

[kenny_1491]

Waste of a post. Either way I have shot one and it is AMAZING!. Def. a good gun and an Ego killer to boot.

 

[the_real_kaz]

To bad alien isn't big enough to compete with eclipse. I'd like to shoot one though.

 

[Sunshaft]

Sacramento XSV are getting for 2010 season independence.thumup:

 

[tlmiller]

To bad alien isn't big enough to compete with eclipse. I'd like to shoot one though.

True, but the Aliens do (IMO) shoot nicer than an Ego. The only thing I hate is the frames. HORRENDOUSLY uncomfortable for me. I downright hate them. Well, I did like 2 seasons ago when I last shot an Alien, but I don't think they've changed anything major on the frames since then, so I probably still would.

If anyone is interested in them, they have a thing (not sure how long it'll last) that for a minimal usage fee, they'll send you an 09 Independence to try before you decide if you want to buy one: http://alienpb.com/guns/try.php

 

[the_real_kaz]

Sacramento XSV are getting for 2010 season independence.thumup:

Yeah i saw that. Looks like more people are switching from eclips to alien.

 

[tlmiller]

Probably because so many of the SP/DLX teams got kicked out, so therefore Dye & PE had an infusion of teams wanting to be sponsored by them. So they probably cut their sponsorship level a bit.

 

[the_real_kaz]

yeah, but that dosn't explain why XSV (a long time ego team) would switch to aliens..

 

[tlmiller]

If PE no longer wanted to give them a totally free ride, it would, since Alien sponsors so few, to have a MAJOR team in their sponsorship would require giving them a free ride.

 

[Shiner74]

As far as the frames on the 08's they offered an 85* frame (what I have on mine) and a 45, not for sure which one you got to use Miller. They only offer 45's on the newer models, I really hope everything keeps going well for them. I bought my 08 last season when they were no longer selling them on there site, talked to Jack Rice and he hooked me up with one of his own with a warranted on down.

 

[tlmiller]

I've actually been looking to pick up a used 08/09 recently. I had shot Indy's with the 85, but shot the older models (Interceptor maybe? and Remains) and hated both of them.

 

[Shiner74]

Ahh, I'm quite fond of the one I've got. The 08's can be had for pretty darn cheap now, not for sure about the 09's. The 09's work on a much lower operating pressure, and they clean up some lines on it. Overall I like mine, not planning on whoring it out anytime in the near future.

 

[tlmiller]

Yeah, read up on them a lot more and want an 09/10 now. But the only 09's I can find for sale used are either:

a) but ugly
b) Owner wants like $100 more than they're worth used.

 

[Shiner74]

The 9/10's are pretty much identical, had jack rice himself told me that when I got mine. Yeah, a guy at one of the fields I go to has a platinum 09, new it would have looked amazing yet with all the scratches its hideous. This one looks pretty clean :09 Alien Independence - PbNation

Not for sure on what they should be going for price wise.

 

[tlmiller]

Hehe, that's the one I was actually referring to as far as the hideous. That's the ugliest red I think I've ever seen on a paintball marker in my life. But yeah, that's the price that 90 Indy's generally go for. All the clear ones that I find guys are asking nearly $700 for still (and they're not exactly pretty), and all the other colors sell too quickly.

 

[martix_agent]

wow you're not kidding, that's a horrible color choice.
it almost reminds me of this. It works better though, because of the curves but it's still a horrid color choice.

 

[TheAznInvazn]

What?
No love for black and red?!

 

[tlmiller]

I LOVE red and black when it's done right. That color red is beyond ugly though. It looks like rotted demon blood red. Compared to say...

Which is a beautiful red, even if it's not with black.

 

[TheAznInvazn]

lol
I like my red either super bright red or a deep crimson color

 

[tlmiller]

I found a picture of red and black done RIGHT!!

Now THAT is how red and black should look together.