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I have heard quite a bit about that blue bolt...So im debating if id rather want a blue bolt or a shockteck supafly i think thats what its called...What one is truly better? Also for the blue bolt im kind of new to paintball guns so im not exactly sure how to install an auto cocker cocking rod and so fourth....Also i have an imagine 05...
 

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bluebolt, fisrt off the sufafly has a small venturi, thats never good, if u buy a blue bolt
u will see y it is better when the small metal cocking rod (that ur gonna have to also )outweighs the bolt by at least 3 times. thats how light the blue bolt is. also u dont have to worry about a bluebolt swelling. if u can screw a screw into a whole u can install a cocking rod, thats all it is, a threaded rod screwing into the back of the bolt
 

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I'm going bluebolt as well, but for a different reason.

The bluebolt has O-rings to help it seal, and the supa-fly doesn't. The lack of them on the one bolt could let a lot of gas around it which means worse effecency, or if the blow-back is bad enough, cracked paint in the feedneck.

But then, if you're not cool with the cocking rod install, there's not much point in getting that bolt. Plus that would add to the cost slightly.
On an ideal bolt, you should have no air coming up the feedneck. On the o-ringless bolts I have, the blowback is bad enough that I have actually watched the ball stack 'float' between the gun and the hopper inside the clar feedneck.
 

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I might have to get a new bolt too. My acs (aluminum) bolt has never chopped, but the blowback on it is so bad that I can't get anywhere above 240fps consistently, even after a spring kit, modded spring guide and some extensive tinkering. So thats another thing you have to worry about with blowback, sorry to get off topic.
 

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Maybe you could befriend someone with a lathe and ask them to cut some O-ring slots on there like the stock bolt. Since it's aluminum you wouldn't have to worry about oiling them and swelling the derlin.
 

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I'd reccomend the Spudnuk'l bolt. They are available in Delrin or Nylatron, and they have Oring slots. Good buy off of Ebay.
 

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Okay so about bolts in specific, how exactly do i install one on the imagine 05? Plz be specific as that i am new to this kind of stuff! Thanks!
 

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lovetocheat69 said:
New bolts are worthless, and a waste of time and money. If theres nothing wrong with the one you have then why buy a different one. You wont notice a difference.
wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun. with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
 

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The scratches on the stock bolt are harmless. If you polish the bolt a little and deburr the feed neck holes it won't happen nearly as bad.

New bolts don't necessarly seal better either. Even in this very thread there's more than one example of after market bolts not sealing very well at all.
 

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Nylatron is another lubricant free material. It is also supposedly less apt to swell and distort in bad temperatures / high humidity.

These bolts can be picked up for under 25$ shipped from Ebay seller named Tessa991.

Look it up, its a great bolt.
 

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All most all derlin bolts made anymore shouldn't swell. From what I've heard they do something different now so swelling isn't as big of an issue now.

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wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun.
Yes it will scratch up the inside, nothing big enough to harm performance in anyway.

with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
The weight doesn't even matter. When you have one or the other in the marker you won't feel any difference weight wise.

I would reccomend the blue bolt for the reasons torch gave. You want a good sealing bolt and the blue bolt will do that for you :)
 

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lots of good help :) but could someone tell me how to install a new bolt in my imagine 05? Please give a lot of detail, since i am new to this stuff! Thanks!
 

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Matt32 said:
wow........
well the spyder imagine bolt tears up the insides and will eventually ruin the gun. with the new bolt it will weigh less and have the air seal a little tighter.
The stock bolt will never ruin the gun, it just needs a little sanding. Who cares if the bolt is half the wait of the stock one you wont notice a difference and once again even if it does seal a little tighter you wont notice a difference. What is with people spending so much on money on stupid little upgrades when you could save up a little and buy nice gun.
 

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personaly, and this is what im doing, just dont buy a bolt cus it doesnt affect preformance hardly at all, and save up for better investments like a better gun, or a hpa tank. or a better hopper, or barrel.
 
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