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Is the $130 for a egrip for the a5 worth it over the response trigger? is the rs the trigger where the farther you pull it back, the faster it is? my friend had one on his 98 and it sucks.


Does the gun come with that hopper it shows? can it feed good? is a halo b worth it over this? also im gonna get a TechT Vortex, will this feed enough for the vortex?


Is there a way i can get a double trigger on a selector switch egrip?
 

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holy crap they want $130 for the e-grip now!?!? no way, even the RT is a no, considering the price tippmann wants for them and considering you can pick up a great mid level marker for $200 its just not worth it to upgrade anything beyond a barrel on a entry level marker. yes the A-5 comes with a hopper, you dont have the option of using anything expect the cyclone. the cyclone is not all that great like tippmann wants you to believe. if you must get a tippmann its better to get a 98 because its cheaper, really its the same marker on the inside and you can have your pick of hopper to use
 

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holy crap they want $130 for the e-grip now!?!? no way, even the RT is a no, considering the price tippmann wants for them and considering you can pick up a great mid level marker for $200 its just not worth it to upgrade anything beyond a barrel on a entry level marker. yes the A-5 comes with a hopper, you dont have the option of using anything expect the cyclone. the cyclone is not all that great like tippmann wants you to believe. if you must get a tippmann its better to get a 98 because its cheaper, really its the same marker on the inside and you can have your pick of hopper to use
i cant seem to find a 98 pro egrip only a reg 98. You said, "if yoy must get a tippmann". do you recomend a gun with an egrip (full auto not just ramping, was gonna get the electra but really want a full auto) other than a tippmann? i would perfer to keep it under 220
 

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full auto is a useless mode now a days anyway, it just wastes paint, ramping modes have all but replaced them, and the only way to get a ramping mode on a tippmann is to buy a aftermarket board AFTER you have already gotten a e-frame, so your looking at about $200 on top of the marker you already bought. ramping modes on the other hand, say your stringing paint out at someone and then they get into cover but you want to keep them there so you fire a shot or two every once in a while just to keep them down. if your on a full auto mode every time you pull the trigger a little too much your firing 2 or 3 shots instead of 1. with ramping you can keep them there with 1 shot here and there but then when they come out lay out more paint faster than you can pull the trigger

at any rate with a double finger e-trigger now a days its rare that you will be outside of semi-auto at any point anyway. again, it just uses too much paint and not to mention when you are playing against people who dont have the option of a ramping mode it kinda gives you a unfair advantage. iv been playing for years and all the fields i play at are either semi auto only, or semi auto and if im playing with new players the refs only allow me to use 1 finger on the trigger (and i still shoot faster)

id say look at the electra again, its cheaper, shorter lighter, easier to work on, just as durable, comes with a e-frame with eyes, double finger adjustable trigger, regulator, clamping feedneck and on/off asa stock.
 

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full auto is a useless mode now a days anyway, it just wastes paint, ramping modes have all but replaced them, and the only way to get a ramping mode on a tippmann is to buy a aftermarket board AFTER you have already gotten a e-frame, so your looking at about $200 on top of the marker you already bought. ramping modes on the other hand, say your stringing paint out at someone and then they get into cover but you want to keep them there so you fire a shot or two every once in a while just to keep them down. if your on a full auto mode every time you pull the trigger a little too much your firing 2 or 3 shots instead of 1. with ramping you can keep them there with 1 shot here and there but then when they come out lay out more paint faster than you can pull the trigger

at any rate with a double finger e-trigger now a days its rare that you will be outside of semi-auto at any point anyway. again, it just uses too much paint and not to mention when you are playing against people who dont have the option of a ramping mode it kinda gives you a unfair advantage. iv been playing for years and all the fields i play at are either semi auto only, or semi auto and if im playing with new players the refs only allow me to use 1 finger on the trigger (and i still shoot faster)

id say look at the electra again, its cheaper, shorter lighter, easier to work on, just as durable, comes with a e-frame with eyes, double finger adjustable trigger, regulator, clamping feedneck and on/off asa stock.
im not sure what to do now cause i can get a project salvo and a egrip with full auto (after 3 shots), semi, response (shoots on pull and relaese), ramping, and 3
round burst (after 3 shots). thats $230. would i need to change the board? also it looks much cooler than the electra, has more modes, but im still unsure. oh well gonna go to sleep uts 330am...
 

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If looks are important the Salvo will do the job you don't need an aftermarket board but even as someone that doesn't like Spyders the Electra would be the smarter buy especially since you will need a fast loader with either marker to use any of the firing modes. One last thing on the looks remember that you will be adding a hopper and air tank which does a great job of ruining the looks of any milsim marker. :ninja:
 

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just keep in mind that nomatter what you get the odds are you will be using semi-auto more than anything, so set the modes aside and look at the markers then. even if you do want to use the modes the electra comes with tourny modes which are better than most other modes you come across because most will give you semi when your not firing fast then the ramping kicks in when you are and you have a higher fire rate

3-shot is often one of the most paint wasting modes out there. take the scenario above again, you want to keep someone in their bunker, now instead of firing one shot at them you must fire 3 and you dont have a chance of controlling it like to do on auto

the modes dont make a marker good or bad so i really suggest you forget about them when finding a marker and find one that has all the features you are looking for beyond some programing.
 

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thanks alot now the carver one i egrip with semi, 3 round, and saftey auto is $140. is there any way i can upgrade that to a double trig? if not i may just go electra. for the electra is there a way i can get auto too?

if you can recomend something, im looking for full auto and ramping, and double trig doesbt matter to much cause i suck at walking. under 220. i think the project salvo is cheap even with an egrip, but no ramping. remeber its safty auto so i have to do 3 shots before full auto. i think its pretty good. mabey i can put the extra cash into a 4500psi tank and better goggles ect.
 

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true, but the RT still isnt worth it considering what tippmann wants for it

can someone else tell him that full auto is useless? i dont seem to be getting through.

as i said, forget the modes, look at the markers, electra is a far better choice when you consider what all comes on it stock
 

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FULL AUTO IS USELESS!!! I've owned Egos and Angels and not once have I ever taken them off of semi. With an electronic marker the trigger is literally as light or lighter than clicking your computer mouse. You can rip off strings of paint that are just as fast as full auto with absolutely no practice or effort. Full auto is also banned at most fields anyway and will get you booted for using it.
 

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the reason you dont see many boards with ranping and full auto is because companies typically either put a "milsim" board on them that has semi, 3-shot, and full auto like some military firearms or they put a "paintball" board that has semi and tourney ramping modes but there are not many that have everything on them because the 3-shot and auto modes are useless

and as craw said fields dont allow auto modes and iv only come across 2 that will allow a ramping mode and only when you are playing speedball, if you go play on the woods course you have to be on semi
 

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alright, what about a APE Rampage board? 7 modes. also i should of said before but my field allows it and im also gonna do some free shooting with reballs in my backyard. is there a way i can put the ape in an egripe carver one (tippmann 98 ape board). sorry i really want everything!
 

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sure, after you already spend $130 on a e-frame, so again, its not nearly worth it if you want to spend that kind of money it would be far better to get a mid range marker that has ramping modes on it instead of 2 pieces for $200, i mean if shooting some reballs in the backyard in full auto and giving you an unfair advantage on the field over players that dont even have a e-frame is worth $200 to you then sure i suppose its your money. but considering you can get a whole other marker for $200 why spend it on 2 pieces?

if you want a e-frame get the electra, it comes stock, with ramping modes that are better than full auto and is much cheaper, that way you can put the money towards something like a mask that doesnt fog so you can actually see what your shooting at and how many times you have bonus balled the new player, or a HPA tank that will allow you to have a constant output pressure for the stream of paint, or maybe a good forcefeed hopper that can load fast enough to allow you to shoot the paint in the first place, or how about another case of paint that you need to buy in the first place
 

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You can buy the Carver One with the Egrip for $140 and you don't need the APE board. All the APE board does is give you some slightly different firing modes and raises the rate of fire cap to 30bps. To change the modes on the APE board you have to do it by trigger pulls and counting blinking lights you will not be doing that on the field so during a game you will be shooting either full auto or semi or whatever ramping mode you have selected. Semi, three shot burst and full auto will be fine for rec ball. It is only when you get into speedball tournament play where the different ramping modes become important.
 

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personally i dont think those internals are capable of it, sure the board may trip the noid 30 times a second but for the hammer, bolt, linkage arm and valve to all reset that fast? no way. 15, 20 at most without modification

i can see bad bad things happening to the plastic power tube at that speed, bad...but funny
 
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