You're questioning the wrong thing. You SHOULD be asking why electros are so much more when boards and solenoids are what, $20?, and other components are often made to lesser standards.i just dont understand why some pumps are so expensive considering you are buying an extremely simple mechanical marker.
then why can i not buy either aftermarket for $20 or even $40 if you want to consider profit margins.You're questioning the wrong thing. You SHOULD be asking why electros are so much more when boards and solenoids are what, $20?,.
because if the boards and noids ARE $20, then someone should be selling them for much less than i can get them from dye.Why would aftermarket pricing be relevant when marker mfgrs are buying their boards/noids bulk straight from their respective mfgrs?
In your mind, what else justifies the cost of supposed high end electros that isn't present in a CCM or any other pricey non-E-marker? Milling? Ano? Precision-made internal parts? Last I checked, CCMs had those things, too, plus quite a bit of additional work in the shop (mechanical linkages, pump handles, rods, hammers, sears, etc.), much of which is stainless steel, that you so artfully described as "extremely simple."
Your "it isn't an E-gun" stance isn't looking particularly sound.
blah blah blah blah blah.so then as manufacturing time increases that must mean its free right? because pumps obviously need the same amount of milling for all the various air passageways and wires even though those parts are never placed on them and again, most companies dont manufacture the stainless steel parts, rods can be purchased in specific diameters and at most then they are bent and threaded of which this would require a bending rig which gets minimal ware as that is what it is designed to do and a tap and dye set which only has the threaded dye as an item of wear and in the diameters that paintball uses is not going to cost more than maybe $75 on the high side and again, a company like WGP also purchases and manages to produce a very similarly designed product for a fraction of the cost. and what else besides any rods and a sear (which are typically cast btw) is made of stainless and requires anything that ccm would actually "manufacture" and not buy from someone else? granted i dont know the ccm design like the back of my head but the only things that come to mind are the hammer and pins for things like the trigger and sear which again also WGP and spyder both use and both use stainless as well.
not to mention you completely avoided the question of, if cockers all have the parts that you listed as "expensive to produce" and made of stainless steel, then how is WGP able to produce a budget cocker?
as for the g6r vs the shocker, great example! shocker, produced by SP has no LPR and is also produced by a company that owned the e-marker patent therefor did not have to pay themselves usage fees(which btw is another thing the pumps dont need over an e-marker) therefore the shocker was simpler to produce and therefore cheaper
spool vs poppet though, not the best example, lets look at the etek vs the ego, both are the same design, both even have parts that can swap between the two, both have the "expensive" stainless steel rams that are difficult to produce and both have the very "cheap" solinoid and board but the milling time on the etek is much less than the milling time on the ego, granted i do think the egos are still overpriced but there is also no way to produce it with the same milling at etek prices (and make a profit anyway)
i have no interest and am not going to purchase one, im just trying to understand why they are so expensive and sofar have not found it
in reality though i doubt either of us will ever know exactly why CCM prices them where they do, its probably just a combination of things