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So after numerous hoursof reasearch i'm almost to buying everything but i'm contemplating a 98c or a5... my logic is bieng a beginner i dont need 15 bps... So with that said the cyclone feed system is the only main difference? Correct? If there's more please list so i can make an educated decision. :shrug:

I'm trying to keep costs low(160 or less) on a good reliable marker. Any suggestions on other guns (good and sturdy for woodsball) are apprecieated thumup:
 

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more of a better choice would be the smart parts vibe,[150] and it can be easily upgraded to speedball by purchasing the blackheart board. another alternative could be the sp-1 pretty much the same thing as the vibe. make sure you get a good mask(vforce provantage,grillz,profiler,vents helix,e vents, pretty much anything with good foam and a thermal lense] and a good hopper, i recomend the invert halo too, works great ad is pretty durable, or you could always get a q-loader if you wanna go scenario
 

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agreed^^^ tippmann is very overpriced now a days, and if you wanted to run the vibe in speedball it would work just fine, it has semi and a double trigger, grip and rip. it will dominate in the woods over a tippmann as well and be the same price, will still work off co2 while being much quieter and smoother shooting
 

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agreed^^^ tippmann is very overpriced now a days, and if you wanted to run the vibe in speedball it would work just fine, it has semi and a double trigger, grip and rip. it will dominate in the woods over a tippmann as well and be the same price, will still work off co2 while being much quieter and smoother shooting
I read and was told by friends that co2 can leak out in liquid form when its cold is this true and have enough of an impact to get hpa
 

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Yes that's true. I don't know if you've shot a gun with CO2, but after alot of shooting the tank gets cold. That happens in the gun aswell. If you're going to be playing in the cold, get HPA. If you're going to be playing in hot/cool weather I think CO2 would be fine. HPA is going to be better in the long run, but CO2 is a good alternative.
 

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the vibe is designed to vent out any liquid CO2 that gets into the regulator, this is most likely what you are talking about, what happens is if liquid co2 gets into the reg the marker will stop shooting untill that is vented out. the simple fix is to have an anti-siphon tube installed in your co2 tank, this should stop liquid co2 from even getting to the reg in the first place and is typically a $20 fix, but yes it would be better to run HPA reguardless, but that is going to run a $100 price tag for a good tank vs. a $20 fix
 

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So ive been lookin and ive seen many negative responses to the SP-1 like many people have prolems with it or somthing. i was wondering if this is true or the site i was on wasn't correct. any input would be great...if this is true then is the vibe a better buy?
 

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I don't know about the SP-1, but the Tippmanns are very common and upgrades can be found everywhere. The place i play at uses 98C's for reliability. I have a A5 and am pretty happy with it. I've used a 98C and liked it when i rented it.
they work well.
 

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ya to be honest hte $20 price difference is probably just because of the rails on the sp1, id go vibe reguardless for the double trigger. most problems new players have are because the vibe is a elecrtopnuematic marker and they have never had one before. anyone with a vibe, sp1, ion, ion xe, or eos can help you out with problems since all those markers are the same on the inside (and of course people on here know lots about them)

they are a great marker you will be happy
 
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