paypal got back to me today saying the seller was definatly at fault. but they couldn't retreave crap from him. So I called my credit card company and told them what happened. they instantly credited my account for the money lost and took money from the other guys account....mess with the best and get butt rammed like the rest. thats great and all. I was really ticked at first but now I can finally buy an nyx now that I know the money is back for sure. out gotta find me a good one now.