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Don't buy Tippmanns. Overpriced.

Spyders are like Tippmanns, just they break more often, but repairs are <$20.00
 

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Just normal gun malfunctions, like broken O-Rings, or gas leaks- that kind of thing. Tippmann's are better in reliability, but the price-tag really isn't worth it.

Accuracy is the same as a Tippmann, you might think about some barrel upgrades though.
 

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let's go according to wee huts logic (or lack of) he sugests that you buy a cheaper gun that will break more often and have to upgrade the barrel. Now for people living on planet earth try both out see what feels better to you.
 

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don't buy it. mainly because it has a flatline barrel. and those things are indescribably awful. it increases range (even though the balls will not break upon impact at long distances), at the sacrifice of nearly all of your accuracy. I'd recommend a spyder vs1 or smart parts sp1. (much better guns in that price range)Unfortunately if you're only into milsim in that price range then tippmann is virtually your only choice. if you have to get a tippmann, dont get a flatline barrel with it.
 

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Look at it this way:

Buy a spyder if you are willing to spend the time cleaning, lubing, and generally maintaining before and after playing each day/weekend/whenever.

Buy a tippmann if you think you will neglect to clean it each time you use it. You will ahve to clean it eventually, but the tippmann can take more damage and still function as advertised than the spyder can.
 

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Look at it this way:

Buy a spyder if you are willing to spend the time cleaning, lubing, and generally maintaining before and after playing each day/weekend/whenever.

Buy a tippmann if you think you will neglect to clean it each time you use it. You will ahve to clean it eventually, but the tippmann can take more damage and still function as advertised than the spyder can.
true, but i think this makes it sound like the maintanance on the spyder is hard. its super simple. id much rather take the maintanance on a stacked tube blowback over the crazy split shell of the tippmann anyday.

let's go according to wee huts logic (or lack of) he sugests that you buy a cheaper gun that will break more often and have to upgrade the barrel. Now for people living on planet earth try both out see what feels better to you.
doesnt seem like you have owned/worked on a stacked tube blowback........heres some more logic (or lack of), lets take advise from people who have no experience in the matter......

yes you will go through more o rings with a spyder and yes the stock barrel is bad (name me a budget marker that doesnt have a bad barrel) but the spyder will out preform the tippy. in my mind its no contest. spyder hands down
 

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I'd hardly say that Spyders are superior the basic models aren't examples of cutting edge paintball technology at best they are similar in performance and looking at a Spyder Rodeo you can't honestly say that it blows away the A5 or 98C just because it is a stacked tube blowback. Your typical newbie player isn't going to take care of their marker anyway and at the first oring failure they are more likely to throw it in the trash or sell it on Craigs List than take the time to replace an oring.
 

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I say buy it. Tippmans aren't even over priced. A brand new A-5 is only 180$ and a flatline can be found for around 70 to 80 now. Excellent accuracy can be achieved with the flatline barrel if you have the velocity dialed in right which isn't hard to do. Also its true the Tippmann will not have to be cleaned all the time and it will be able to take more of a beating than the spyder, but I'd think you'd want that since you're just barely starting to paintball. Maybe I don't know. The spyder may be able to out "perform" the tippmann if you're talking about BPS. However the same BPS can also be achieved with a couple of upgrades depending on how fast you want it. Lets say you do do that. You'd have a more reliable, sleeker and more slender, and more accurate marker that could shoot just as fast as the spyder. And it would be about the same price as the spyder by the time you bought it a better barrel.
 

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spyder outpreform a tpiiman in more than in BPS.

they are smaller, easier to clean, more effecient, and less expensive. PLUS your beloved flatline barrel is an absolute waste. Buy a J&J ceramics barrel for $30 and your'e all set
 

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I found a tippmann on ebay, and i really want to get into the paintball thing. I have some friends that play. Would this gun with everything be worth buying, its an A-5.

Tippmann A-5 With flatline barrel and starter kit - eBay (item 250297175300 end time Sep-25-08 19:44:20 PDT)
i have a tippmann 98 custom with a response trigger and a 16 inch barrel and if you want i can put on the flatline but i a trying to sell it because i just bought a vibe and i think it is great but i am willing to sell it without the flatline for 185 and with it 265
 

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NONO- My logic is such-

By a cheaper gun that is MUCH better quality but breaks a TAD more often than a gun which costs 100 bucks more that breaks equally, if not a tiny bit less.

The barrel thing is a standard for EVERY gun. The stock barrels usually aren't very good, and Tippmann's stock barrels absolutely fail at everything.
 

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heres what it comes down to, at 180 any tippmann is overpriced as far as quality is concered(there is an argument for a used one in good condition around 100), the flatline is an absolute JOKE that costs you an extra 70, and to just match the preformance of a spyder you will have to upgrade the tippmann. so wheres the great advantave in buying one? its not like o rings will make up for the price diference.
 
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