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Planning on getting a tippman 98, a proto primo, and a air tank. I have a couple questions. First does it matter if the tank is 4.5k or 3k or does only the High pressure output matter. Also would a flatline barrel be worth it. I'll be playing short woodsball games. I'm looking for a boost over rental accuracy.
 

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You are correct that only the tank output pressure matters. A 3k tank will usually be cheaper, but significantly heavier than a 4.5k tank. Try to compare them both before you buy one.

A flatline isn't all that great; they do shoot further, but the balls sorta float and drift. Pick up a J&J ceramics, or CP barrel, instead. they're only $35 or so, and are darn good quality for the price. Pick up a good squeegee, too.
 

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Is the ceramics more accurate than a stock barrel? I've only played with rental tippman 98s and (being cocky here) destroyed the competition. I basically want something that will give me better range and accuracy over the stock. Also would I be able to gently walk a tippman 98 in Stock parts with a upgraded barrel and proto primo hopper with a double trigger?
 

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in my opinions, you should not be spending money to upgrade a tippman other than a barrel. If you want an e-trigger, spend that money on a better gun instead.
You'll never be able to get the mechanical trigger pull light enough, in order to walk the trigger.

Both those barrels are much better quality than the tippman barrel. I'd expect better performance. Also realize that a lot of it will come from the quality of paint that you are using. If you cheap out and get paint that is junk, you'll never be able to shoot straight.
 

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you could probably make a cardboard tube more accurate than a stock tippmann barrel, those things are terrible. Ive said it for years that with the correct tools you could probably make a better barrel in your garage at home.

flatline is not worth it, while better than the stock barrel it has some pretty bad accuracy due to the backspin it places on the paint. and while it will get the paint to go further, the kicker it it will not break at the extended ranges, the way the barrel works is it basically creates lift on the paint, but at the point when a paintball out of a normal barrel will hit the ground the paintball from the flatline will still be in the air, it wont have enough energy to break but it will still be in the air, tippmann just conveniently forgets to mention the part about it not being able to break.

I am not a huge fan of the 98 for a starting marker, it sounds like the field you are at rents them so why bother getting the same marker that they will rent you? IMO you can get a better marker for around the same price and if you want a e-trigger I have some good news for you, look into the azodin blitz, its around the same price as a 98 but has a e trigger from the factory

for air, I would really recommend saving and getting a 4500psi tank, doesnt have to be new but in the long run an extra month of waiting for enough money to get one really pays off.

click on the link in my sig if you havnt already and read through that, lots of good info for a player like yourself
 

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Well, my experience is different. I have found that the Flatline on the 98 to be EXTREMELY accurate. The spinning ball is more stable and retains accuracy well beyond the range of standard barrels. Certainly the spin holds the ball up for greater distances, but the velocity slows and the ball becomes more susceptible to wind drift. Until it gets to those extreme ranges I have found accuracy to be superior. Even way out there hits are more common just because the trajectory is flatter requiring less compensation for drop. Certainly the ball can go far enough that velocity can slow to the point that it doesn't break, but my hit rate at near that limit makes the occasional bounce acceptable.

Been a while since I bought parts, but I have an electronic trigger installed (used to be a readily available Tippman item) which reduces the trigger pull pressure and has a full auto setting. I have never found the need to upgrade to a newer, read expensive, marker.

The real advantage of the higher pressure tank is just more shots per fill. Never found differences in weight between tanks really was something I've noticed on the field. The only draw-back is the price. If you buy used make sure the tank can still pass the certification test.

Take a look at the Apex barrel. The on-the-fly adjustment makes it grand for curving shots around and over the top edge of bunkers. Many a win with a curve setting and full auto! I have found that ball breaks in the barrel is about the same between the Flatline and the Apex.
 

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Dude, thread is over 2 years old. It's dead
Yeah, Dude, and all of the details and facts on the performance of what actually goes on with trajectory, gyroscopic stability and impact was so absolutely detailed in the other posts...not! And understanding of the physics was in those details...not!

I understand you pull the trigger and the paintball splats against your opponent. You don't miss, requiring no explanation of how a device or technique might improve your hits per game. I am surprised you participate in a paintball forum at all. Likely you have not thought about constructing your own barrel or modify a trigger yourself to improve speed. Certainly not necessary if you and you marker are already perfect. Congratulations!
 
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