Paintball Guns and Gear forums banner

1 - 11 of 11 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,452 Posts
Haha this is a good article to post up in the dealership.

Another problem with the truck is that the bolts to hold the bed in rise up to much. I am sure you understand that in the back of pick-up trucks they have grooves that run from the tailgate to the cab. There are bolts in these groves that rise up OVER the top of the grove, so when you are sliding material into your truck, say ply-wood, it gets caught on the bolts and you have to pick it up and lay it down to get it in.
 

·
i play for keeps
Joined
·
7,001 Posts
Some of the posters on the front page there had it right. Compared to other models, the Tundra is still up there in reliability. Easy to criticize a new model from a new plant with new suppliers. And all the domestic fanboys are afraid of Toyota and Nissan stepping up and over their beloved negative-net-income GM and Ford companies. These problems will be hashed out quickly(as they aren't design flaws), and people will still criticize the Tundra, because thats what dumb anti-foreign growth people do.
 

·
Imperator
Joined
·
19,071 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
And all the domestic fanboys are afraid of Toyota and Nissan stepping up and over their beloved negative-net-income GM and Ford companies. These problems will be hashed out quickly(as they aren't design flaws), and people will still criticize the Tundra, because thats what dumb anti-foreign growth people do.
In my experience, it's almost the other way around. The import guys think Toyota is god based on the past, when in reality Toyota isn't perfect. There's a lot of people who still blindly follow the stereotype that unless it's an import it isn't going to be reliable. That simply isn't true nowadays.

I think if more people gave domestic vehicles a chance they would find they could get something just as good, often for less money. We own a Lexus, I've worked on and driven vehicles from Subaru, Nissan, Infiniti, Toyota, Mazda and many others. In my experience I haven't seen anything that makes one head over heals better than the other. They all have their strong and weak points.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
23,657 Posts
Based on the "bigger and beefier is better" commercials, I'm not surprised these have problems that show up eventually.
But it Is a new truck. I think they're doing pretty well for just starting out.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,452 Posts
My dad told me that the Camry is having a LOT of problems. I am unsure of what they are exactly, but it somehow earned the car a title along the lines of most problematic or something. Anyone care to explain and/or elaborate?

Also, I heard this the other day and thought it was interesting. If you ask people in China, Buick is considered the most prestige car, sorta like we look up to mercedes and the sort.
 

·
Imperator
Joined
·
19,071 Posts
Discussion Starter #7
Also, I heard this the other day and thought it was interesting. If you ask people in China, Buick is considered the most prestige car, sorta like we look up to mercedes and the sort.
Buick is really popular in china for some reason. Which is good for GM, since China is growing like crazy.
 

·
i play for keeps
Joined
·
7,001 Posts
My parents have been domestic car drivers until 2002 when they purchased a Toyota Sequoia and in 2004 when we purchased a Tundra(not the new model).

My dad's F-350(ford) which he has had for 8 years or so, has been a lot of trouble. The transmission has been completely replaced twice, and in the shop five times that many occasions. There is not really anything reliable about the truck. They have owned Dodges, Chryslers, Fords, and since we have owned the Tundra and Sequoia, neither has gone into the shop at all, where our Contour had its gearbox replaced, Mustang's transmission was shot, the Chrysler lebaron's engine was completely replaced at about 90k miles, our Dodge 11-pass had endless problems, and so on.

In our personal experience, there is no question that Toyota holds a standard above Ford and GM in terms of reliability, based solely on time and money spent on repairs. I left out that our 2 Mercedes-Benz's had not so much shop time, with an engine replacement at about 200k miles(1983 vehicle).

Now im not short-sighted enough to say that Toyota is perfect, but in our large family, with a fair amount of car experience, Toyota has been a great move. I own a Corolla and my brother a new Camry, and my older brother a Tundra supercab. We're all running fine, with no complaints to date. It isn't following a stereotype when we have a wonderful record with Toyota and such a botched history with domestic. I don't plan on buying a domestic anytime soon, and if/when I buy a truck, it will be a Toyota. Besides, what product does NOT have problems in the first year of its release?
 

·
Imperator
Joined
·
19,071 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Really, experience doesn't prove too much. Sometimes you just have a stroke of bad luck or pick a bad model. Just using experience alone my mothers Lexus has had more problems than my Envoy, and I've put more miles on it already than she has (and I drive it a lot harder than she does.) Doesn't mean all are better, sometimes you just get a lemon.

However, I can prove through JD Power Consumer reports, and other research companies findings that certain American brands and models are right up there with Toyota/Honda. Therefore, its nothing more than a stereotype that Toyota and other companies are perfect or even simply more reliable. It's just not the case.

Instead of looking at brands, people are better off looking at individual vehicles. Right now, the Tundra is not a vehicle I would be looking at.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,452 Posts
I was testing my moms rendezvous the other day. It had some balls to tell you the truth. It wasn't perfect or anything but i was having fun. I pulled out of a parking lot onto a highway a little soon and there was a truck right behind me. I punched the gas and her car made it to 50 in a pretty good amount of time.
 

·
Allen
Joined
·
5,718 Posts
Even with these known problems I still hope to be able to get one of the new tundras. Which it will be a couple years probably before I can afford one and hopefully they will have most the kinks worked out.
 
1 - 11 of 11 Posts
Top