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hey guys, I have a dm4 red and black. not a single scratch on it because I quit playing shortly after purchasing it. I have everything it came with including the receipt. it also has an on off valve. the only thing it needs is nitro tank since mine is out of date and a high flow hopper. I'm looking to trade for a tippman A5 with response trigger. located in Northwest ga, PM me if you have questions or anything
 

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seriously? i wouldnt, dm4 is 10 years old and parts are WAAAAAAY out of production, even if its missing something like a screw, if it was some specific length for the DM4 you are going to have a terrible time finding a new one. The only way I would do that is if it were 2 DM4s then you at least have one laying around to salvage parts from
 

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At least the DM4 I'd be willing to shoot. An A5 I'd give away as I'd never be willing to shoot it. I'd trade an A5 for a DM4 in a heartbeat. DM4's still shoot great, just horrendous efficiency and heavy. If it was properly maintained, it's not going to missing parts, and you can still get the noids and boards, which are the 2 parts most likely to fail.
 

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honestly I played with it around 10 or less times. I got it in 9th grade and before 10th grade other things became important to me. It's flawless no joke. I want an A5 because it has no batteries, no electronic hopper, and no nitro tank=cheaper. Like right now I have a $260 nitro tank that expires in 2015. wtf was I thinking buying that. I could have bought 13 20oz co2 tanks for that with each having 10 year plus shelf life.
 

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you dont HAVE to run electronic hoppers on anything, and if a $2 battery is too expensive how are you buying paint or field fees?

as for the HPA tank, they have really come down in price, new 4500psi tanks are around $150 now and you can find used ones in good hydro around $100 but it doesnt matter what you buy if it is going to sit on a shelf so regardless of if you originally bought a HPA or co2 tank i dont see how letting it sit on a shelf for all these years is swaying your decision this time around

look into the spyder line before jumping on this a5, if you insist on mechanical there are plenty of good markers to choose from which will all work just grate with a proto primo (no batteries) on top of them. For what they are the a5s are large, have way too many parts and the cyclone, while it does succeed in being a purely mechanical loader it also fails at being a GOOD loader. Even if you went with something like the 98c at least you can fix that problem with a different loader but the a5 locks you into the cyclone with no options

click on the link in my sig and browse through the markers, there are a lot in there that will suit you
 

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You're right I dont have to run an electronic hopper but I have one and ill have to buy another set of batteries for it also, plus batteries for the gun, plus get my nitro tank serviced. Its not worth it for me. New i spent $1350 for gun, 150 for hopper, 260 for nitro tank. It will be a paper weight before I buy batteries for it, that simple. I owned a 98 custom, E99 spyder, AGP autococker, A5, and A5 response growing up. I like the simplicity of hooking up air, filling with paintballs and its ready to go. Thats all Im really after but I do like that the response trigger gives me somewhat of an Automatic if held right. This is a speedball gun and tbh Ive never played speedball in my life, Im a woodsball guy.
 

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just so you know though, there are not many but there are fields out there that have banned the RT. Because there is no way to govern the ROF on them some fields will not allow them because you cant say for sure that you will not be shooting over the fields set limit. Some of those limits are set by their insurance so you see the problem

the other option, most fields will allow you to rent an HPA tank as well, so if you dont want to buy a new one, rent one and then you dont have to go through all the trading around

one last thing, replace your mask, or at least the lens, after sitting that long there is no guarantee it is still safe, the plastics do age
 

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This is a speedball gun and tbh Ive never played speedball in my life, Im a woodsball guy.
You are incorrect. THat is NOT a speedball marker. It is a PAINTBALL marker. It doesn't suddenly lose performance or become less effective in the woods. I know, as I use a DM quite often in the dessert (no woods to use it in), and it works just fine. No issues whatsoever.
 

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no, it is a speedball gun. Right you can use it for woodsball or whatever else you want to use it for but it was designed to compete in speedball competitions.
 

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smaller and lighter is always better ( thought he dm4 still weight quite a bit in compared to today's new markers)

Unless you don't have access to compressed air, I say use it. They're a pleasure to shoot.
 

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no, it is a speedball gun. Right you can use it for woodsball or whatever else you want to use it for but it was designed to compete in speedball competitions.
It was designed to sell as much as Dye could. There has NEVER been a speedball gun made. Every marker is advertised to sell to as many people as they can get. They don't care where you play. The only "niche" markers are milsim markers that are advertised to hardcorp milsimmers. There are none that are "speedball" and "woodsball". Even milsim aren't woodsball markers. They're just milsim.
 

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no, it is a speedball gun. Right you can use it for woodsball or whatever else you want to use it for but it was designed to compete in speedball competitions.
speedball was created in the woods, the only reason it is not played in the woods is because you cant have 2 identical sides of a natural field. Even if what you were saying was true(its not) its like saying my Toyota Tacoma was made by a Japanese corporation, therefor it is better to use on Japanese roads when in reality its going to drive like it drives regardless of where it is and something like a ford focus, even though designed by and for Americans would be a much better choice for Japanese streets and cities

im with miller on this, the marker I use most often is a DM6 and I play about an equal share of everything. There is nothing that makes a DM marker better or worse in any environment than anything else. How it is designed (and maintained) locks it into how it preforms. Its not like the a5 will have any advantage over the dm4 in any situation based on it being next to a tree rather than an inflatable bunker

the only situation the a5 will outperform the dm4 is in resale value assuming there is nothing wrong with either
 
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He should just trade in the whole lot and opt for a Smigman UVA. He'd be able to paint the heck out of all the canvases on the field.
 
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