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just looking to get these two cockers dated. the STO serial number is 102179 and the orracle is 3237. if anyone has an idea of what either of these might be worth that would be nice too.

the STO

system x regulator
eclipse nexus ram
ANS 3-way
WGP bullet style adjustable LPR
venturi style bolt with matching SS bolt pin
WGP hinge frame with extreme rage wrap around grips
cp drop with cp on/off asa
stock WGP lower tube internals
clamp feedneck, not sure who makes it.

and heres what the orracle has

cp regulator (looks like a cp but not sure what brand it is)
worrblade frame with tadao board.
belsales evo ram with eclipse QEV
belsales evo LPR
belsales nexus delrin bolt with matching delrin bolt pin
belsales nexus dialer kit
CP on/off asa
twist lock feed neck, not sure who makes it.

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The STO is a 2K1 and the orracle....based on serial number is 1990...which is impossible lol. The Orry came out in the 2000's as well. Different serial number ranges.

The STO - if it were in stock condition would sell for around $290 in pristine condition but I would price it at $240 to sell

The Orry - you should be able to get between $300 - $400 to the right person in pristine condition

Back then people want to "upgrade" their autocockers...now-a-days, people want original - go figure. The market will dictate what you price it at.
 

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thanks for the information, any and all is appreciated. my knowledge of cockers is limited to service and repair.

for giggles i took a pic of the serial number. i knew orrys were released somewhere after 2000, i just couldnt put an exact date to it. unfortunately nothing i have is stock. the bodies of both are in good condition however the trigger frames, regulators, barrels, and pneus have obvious signs of wear and or tooling marks.

 

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If it's a Dragun body, someone went through a LOT of trouble to make it look like a real Orracle since those didn't have clamping necks, they would needed to have a new neck pressed in or have the stock threaded/reanno'd, along with a few other physical differences in the designs. Plus replacing frame/noid with the Eclipse parts and WGP noid cover.
 

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I have never had the opportunity to hold a dralion and mine at the same time to get a good like at the milling. And i was told orracles didnt always have the w stamp either which mine also does not have. Just seems like the cost to benefit ratio to make a dragun loom like an actual orracle wouldnt be worth it.
 
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