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Just wanted to know if anyone plays at Paintball Explosion indoor enough to know what common barrel bores are used, summer & winter.
 

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Ya Valken paint,they have their own field paint from Valken. When I was there last my ball-detents were not working. Sometimes up to 4 balls would fall out, all the way out the barrel. My barrel is a .689. I was the only one in my group that was breaking paint, but my gun was my problem. One in my group was using a rental the other 2 had DM's. Some people play at a place so often they just know whats best bore.
 

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it's not their own, it's just a special printed shell that is made for them. There's lots of fields that do it.

Bore sizes change from batch to batch, due to humidity/temperture, etc. Fix your detents and you won't have issues. The only thing that under-boring does is get you better shot to shot consistency.
 

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it's not their own, it's just a special printed shell that is made for them. There's lots of fields that do it.

Bore sizes change from batch to batch, due to humidity/temperture, etc. Fix your detents and you won't have issues. The only thing that under-boring does is get you better shot to shot consistency.
What I meant when I said "own" is they are not the same as if you just order a box online.

Paintball Explosion even uses a certain indoor paint, witch even if the machine doesn't make the same size consistently, it will on an average make small bore paint, medium bore paint or big bore paint. And I'm sure summer and winter average bore size is different.
 

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What I meant when I said "own" is they are not the same as if you just order a box online.

Paintball Explosion even uses a certain indoor paint, witch even if the machine doesn't make the same size consistently, it will on an average make small bore paint, medium bore paint or big bore paint. And I'm sure summer and winter average bore size is different.
whats so special about their paint for indoor? my indoor field uses the same stuff they shoot outside.

here's a list of what they've used

DXS Basic/Training/Field
Empire Custom Blend
Red Legion
Valken Infinity
Formula13

plus a few more.

my point is, there isn't anything that distinguishes indoor and outdoor paint as far as i know. generally the indoor fields i've been to use thinner (recreational grade) just because its easier to clean. generally a white fill for the same purpose because it won't really stain either.
 

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What I meant when I said "own" is they are not the same as if you just order a box online.
ya, its worse, a field near me does that as well, not only is it some of the worst paint I have ever shot, it was more expensive than just about everything outside of tourny grade stuff

if you have an option of buying ANYTHING that is not the stuff made for your field, do that instead

o, and the "tourny grade" stuff, if they offer it, is COMPLETE CRAP, never ever spend even an extra cent on it, my dm6, shooting it about as soft as is possible was breaking it all day long the one and only time i ever purchased it
 

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whats so special about their paint for indoor? my indoor field uses the same stuff they shoot outside.

here's a list of what they've used

DXS Basic/Training/Field
Empire Custom Blend
Red Legion
Valken Infinity
Formula13

plus a few more.

my point is, there isn't anything that distinguishes indoor and outdoor paint as far as i know. generally the indoor fields i've been to use thinner (recreational grade) just because its easier to clean. generally a white fill for the same purpose because it won't really stain either.
They use a different paint with white fill for the indoor field, so I can see how it can be confused as something special.
 

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The indoor paint is not "special" just when you buy paint they had 3 kinds indoor, outdoor & both inside/outside paint. All the paint I seen was white fill, indoor or outdoor. The indoor paint was $65/case, the indoor/outdoor was $72/case, & sorry but I didn't ask about the outdoor.
 

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The indoor paint is not "special" just when you buy paint they had 3 kinds indoor, outdoor & both inside/outside paint. All the paint I seen was white fill, indoor or outdoor. The indoor paint was $65/case, the indoor/outdoor was $72/case, & sorry but I didn't ask about the outdoor.
only thing i could see is that the outdoor rec paint would have a slightly tougher shell to deal with shooting through brush, but hey... i'm a skeptic
 

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After talking to a Midwest paintball group on another website most common size is small bore (.684 is what most people said). Not saying every case is .684, just an opinion from a group who plays there often.
 

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I'm not a fan of the super small indoor field that they have. It's gross and hot.
I like the indoor fields size 200ft x 85ft is good for me. The turf was soft on my knees(with no pads). The fill stations were nicely placed. I also liked the staging area/bleachers(great view of the field). I haven't been there when its hot yet, but most my plans of playing there are after summer(fall,winter,spring).
 
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I live about 15-20 minutes from the facility. That being said - School is currently taking my money and time, and paintball takes a back seat.


After all that - The indoor paint is a more economical type paint meant to attract airballers who run thru it faster. They were going back and forth between Valken Echo and Valken Graffiti last I knew. Their indoor field required cleats and strongly recommends paintball pants. The floor isn't cleaned often and the turf is about as slippery as ice.

Their indoor/outdoor was Valken Redemption Pro. More consistent, a bit better break resistance in all-temps.

They also were a bit hit&miss as to whether they were running an outdoor only winter paint.


5-6 months ago - I was boring at .679. If I had issues, I'd step the insert up to a .684.


More recently - I've found that O'Hare paintball in Bensonville offers better deals for team practices and paint fees. Case & Entry for 55? 2 w/ entry for $100?

You just need to pre-register with the office to let them know what time you intend to show up...and you have to have affiliation with a team to get in. That's not to say you can't show up just to be another body and run drills with a team. In my experience, teams love additional bodies - so long as you understand you do not have priority over their primary combinations and lines.
 

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I live about 15-20 minutes from the facility. That being said - School is currently taking my money and time, and paintball takes a back seat.


After all that - The indoor paint is a more economical type paint meant to attract airballers who run thru it faster. They were going back and forth between Valken Echo and Valken Graffiti last I knew. Their indoor field required cleats and strongly recommends paintball pants. The floor isn't cleaned often and the turf is about as slippery as ice.

Their indoor/outdoor was Valken Redemption Pro. More consistent, a bit better break resistance in all-temps.

They also were a bit hit&miss as to whether they were running an outdoor only winter paint.


5-6 months ago - I was boring at .679. If I had issues, I'd step the insert up to a .684.


More recently - I've found that O'Hare paintball in Bensonville offers better deals for team practices and paint fees. Case & Entry for 55? 2 w/ entry for $100?

You just need to pre-register with the office to let them know what time you intend to show up...and you have to have affiliation with a team to get in. That's not to say you can't show up just to be another body and run drills with a team. In my experience, teams love additional bodies - so long as you understand you do not have priority over their primary combinations and lines.
Thank you. Nice post. The floor was covered in paint, but my pants didn't feel wet after a game. With in a few minuet's the paint dry's. I love new paint, back 15 years ago my pants would have been soggy at the end of the day, on a dirty field like that.
 

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Their PBX house paint that we get most of the time for team practice is rebranded Valken Crusade paint. They switched 2-3 years ago to the Valken from the Draxxus Silver. Supposedly the same quality but I beg to differ...I really loved their house paint before. The Valken stuff is very brittle and inconsistent... I usually stick with a .684 at PBX.
 
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