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Old May 9th, 2006, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So i've been thinkin about getting a LP system for my tippy...i have a few questions that have been running through my head, though...

Will my cyclone feed still work running at that low of pressure?

Is it really worth getting?

If i ever get an E-bolt, will it work well with it?

Also will my HPA tank still work with it or will i have to get a LP tank?
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Old May 9th, 2006, 04:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For the Cyclone feeder, you'll probably need a new hose for it. Just like the RT system...You get a larger hose and fittings to flow better so it will work at a lower pressure.

Is it worth getting? Well...why do you want to get it? Then after you try to list a few reasons it'll be easier to decide.

It'll work with a E-bolt. One of my tippmann's had that setup when I bought it. (used)

Any HPA tank will work because the kit needs a secondary regulator to function. This is not included, so pick out a nice one.
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Old May 9th, 2006, 04:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i want my shots to be more consistant, and i want the smaller amount of recoil. it makes it quieter, too, right?...and which hose are you talking about for the cyclone feed?
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Old May 9th, 2006, 04:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know, isn't there a little barb and hose outside the gun for the cyclone? If so, those ones. I just assumed, I've never handled a 98 with that feeder on it.

When you use lower pressure you need a larger volume of gas to get the work done, so low pressure things tend to use larger hose and high-flow fittings.

For more consistancy you can just add a good regulator, and you'll need this anyway for the low-pressure kit. Quieter, yes. But lowering the pressure with just a regulator alone can make a fair difference in noise as well.

Recoil, i'll give you that one because the kit comes with a lighter hammer and spring set.

On to the big point though. You have your reasons to want it and they're pretty solid ones. Just weight them against the price of the kit and you'll figure if its worth it.

Of course don't rely on just me, wait for some other folks on here to wander in who have used or at least dealt with the kit.
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Old May 9th, 2006, 04:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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so my gun will work well with just a reg making it run at lower pressure? i thought tippmanns work well at 800psi?...sorry if im asking too much, butt this is all new to me
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Old May 9th, 2006, 05:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Tippmanns do work well at 800psi, that's why they're good at running CO2 or HPA tanks and don't come with regulators like more expensive guns.

But that doesn't mean you can't knock off a few hundred PSI and still have good functionality. You use your velocity adjuster now, that's basically a choke. It has no effect on how much air is used, only how restricted it is before hitting the ball. If you set that to where the screw is flat even with the inside of the powertube and then adjust the velocity to near 300 with a regulator, then just use the adjuster to fine tune, you've reduced the operating pressure.

Just make sure you're getting enough air to not shootdown or have recocking problems and you're good to go.

The LPK kit effectively makes the gun higher flowing to further reduce the pressure needed. You get a higher-flow valve with softer valve spring Mort-(forget the rest of his name) made a thread recently on how to home make this valve body. The spring would still be needed though, but the valve body is important too.

You also get the volumizer- that tube thingy that hangs down in the middle of LPK tippmanns. Its like a storage tank for air near the valve for when you shoot. Remember the lower pressure / higher volume thing?

And the lightened hammer and drive spring, with rear cocking assembly. With the softer valve spring you don't need to crack the valve pin as hard so they give you lighter and softer parts. I could argue that drilling out the stock hammer would be the same, but you won't easily reach the same level as the one in the kit.

If you get a good deal on the kit, and feel its a good choice, jump on it by all means.
I'm not trying to discourage you or tell you its worthless. I just think there's a lot of 'low pressure' fever in paintball where it is advertised as awesome without much explaination.
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Old May 9th, 2006, 05:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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IF you do the right modifcations you can get a tippmann to run at about 300-350PSI. I did it to mine and it works like a charm.

There are a few things that you can do with out spending the ~150 on the LP kit
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  • Install a vertical adapter and a secondary Reg
  • Modiffy your CRX for better flow
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Old May 19th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not worth it just get a high pressure tank and go.
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Old May 20th, 2006, 10:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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look at my sig...i already have one...which brings up another question...i'd still be able to use my HPA tank with a LPK as long as i had a secondary reg right?
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